H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this film
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Hmmm...
Narrator: "The wise Spock was the first to join Captain Kirk's crew. But other illustrious names were soon to follow: Hikaru Sulu the Brave, Nyota Uhura the Pure, Pavel Chekov the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Hikaru-Sulu — who had nearly fought the Khan Noonien Singh, who had nearly stood up to the Vicious Klingons of Kronos, and who had personally wet himself at the Battle of Donatu V — and the aptly named Guardian-of-Forever-Not-Appearing-In-This-Film. Together they formed a band whose names and deeds were to be retold throughout the centuries: the crew of the Enterprise."
Hmmm...
Narrator: "The wise Spock was the first to join Captain Kirk's crew. But other illustrious names were soon to follow: Hikaru Sulu the Brave, Nyota Uhura the Pure, Pavel Chekov the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Hikaru-Sulu — who had nearly fought the Khan Noonien Singh, who had nearly stood up to the Vicious Klingons of Kronos, and who had personally wet himself at the Battle of Donatu V — and the aptly named Guardian-of-Forever-Not-Appearing-In-This-Film. Together they formed a band whose names and deeds were to be retold throughout the centuries: the crew of the Enterprise."
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
I suppose the reporter just shrugged it off as "Harlan being Harlan" so no harm, no foul.
Yeah...I thought the smart-ass comment about llama farming was a bit uncalled for. Ellison knew the reporter (was that PTM?) was asking a valid question because right after the llama comment, he went on to answer the question that was asked of him without skipping a beat. The smart-ass part of that response was unnecessary, but I suppose that was just Harlan's attempt at being funny and charming. Giving someone a straight answer without first belittling would not be very "Ellison-esque".
I suppose the reporter just shrugged it off as "Harlan being Harlan" so no harm, no foul.
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
I"m a little sad to hear the Guardian of Forever won't be used. If they're going the time travel route, the iconic Guardian would probably one of the better plot devices to use. Hopefully whatever they're planning will be just as good though!
I"m a little sad to hear the Guardian of Forever won't be used. If they're going the time travel route, the iconic Guardian would probably one of the better plot devices to use. Hopefully whatever they're planning will be just as good though!
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
Seeing that, it just reconfirms my opinion that, out of all the "hollywood types" I'm aware of, Ellison is one of the few I'd actually enjoy hanging out with.
The guy tells it like he sees it, pulls no punches. FAR PREFERABLE to the "smile to your face while slipping the knife between your shoulder blades" that's so common in life.
Damned refreshing if you ask me. And as for those who are wondering about his comments... reread what he wrote again, without applying your personal "lack of pussyfooting = really pissed off" filter. He basically said "I've heard a rumor that they're using my stuff without my permission. If they are, there'll be hell to pay. If they're not... well, no big deal."
Seriously. Re-read his words, and that's exactly what he said... seasoned liberally with the patented Ellison sharp-tongue which you see so clearly in this video clip, too.
I also love the fact that he makes it sooo clear who he thinks is the villain in the writer's strike... not the writers, or the studio heads, but the @#$*ing LAWYERS!
Seeing that, it just reconfirms my opinion that, out of all the "hollywood types" I'm aware of, Ellison is one of the few I'd actually enjoy hanging out with.
The guy tells it like he sees it, pulls no punches. FAR PREFERABLE to the "smile to your face while slipping the knife between your shoulder blades" that's so common in life.
Damned refreshing if you ask me. And as for those who are wondering about his comments... reread what he wrote again, without applying your personal "lack of pussyfooting = really pissed off" filter. He basically said "I've heard a rumor that they're using my stuff without my permission. If they are, there'll be hell to pay. If they're not... well, no big deal."
Seriously. Re-read his words, and that's exactly what he said... seasoned liberally with the patented Ellison sharp-tongue which you see so clearly in this video clip, too.
I also love the fact that he makes it sooo clear who he thinks is the villain in the writer's strike... not the writers, or the studio heads, but the @#$*ing LAWYERS!
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
Sounds like he overreacted to me. But he got what he wanted. In the short term, anway. And he provided amusement for us in the process. So it's win-win. :thumbsup:
Sounds like he overreacted to me. But he got what he wanted. In the short term, anway. And he provided amusement for us in the process. So it's win-win. :thumbsup:
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
And this is how we solve the strike: kill the lawyers.
Cary L. Brown said:
I also love the fact that he makes it sooo clear who he thinks is the villain in the writer's strike... not the writers, or the studio heads, but the @#$*ing LAWYERS!
And this is how we solve the strike: kill the lawyers.
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
They're not all bad.
Rat Boy said:
Cary L. Brown said:
I also love the fact that he makes it sooo clear who he thinks is the villain in the writer's strike... not the writers, or the studio heads, but the @#$*ing LAWYERS!
And this is how we solve the strike: kill the lawyers.
They're not all bad.
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
Shame they're not using the Guardian. It's the one thing that would have made me overlook the tired time travel idea.
Just curious though, is there anything that says Paramount couldn't still use the DESIGN, and just refrain from calling it "The Guardian of Forever"? I can't imagine he sat down and sketched out the design for the thing, and a portal to the past is hardly his own, original idea.
Isn't he just entitled to use of the name?
Shame they're not using the Guardian. It's the one thing that would have made me overlook the tired time travel idea.
Just curious though, is there anything that says Paramount couldn't still use the DESIGN, and just refrain from calling it "The Guardian of Forever"? I can't imagine he sat down and sketched out the design for the thing, and a portal to the past is hardly his own, original idea.
Isn't he just entitled to use of the name?
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
Ooof, madonn', he looks terrible.
Ooof, madonn', he looks terrible.
Bummer, the Guardian plot device sounded kinda cool. At this stage, I kinda hope they just imply that (SPOILERS....) the Romulans have come back through time and leave it at that. No need to show it or have yet another invented means of time travel.
Re: H. Ellison says 'Guardian of Forever' is NOT in this fil
He looks, acts and talks pretty much exactly like I envisioned.
We'll lend ya Peter Petrelli. Trek's already got the other guy, might as well ship the whole cast on over...
I won't inquire what bunging a quid entails. Hopefully no llamas will be involved.
He looks, acts and talks pretty much exactly like I envisioned.
We'll lend ya Peter Petrelli. Trek's already got the other guy, might as well ship the whole cast on over...
I won't inquire what bunging a quid entails. Hopefully no llamas will be involved.
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