Guinan's original role in "The View" was... to listen.
Guinan and Q; ever explained?
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So are you asking that I NOT find an obscure reference on an old ST novel you wrote to ask you about on Friday night?
Mike
I just learned that Whoopi's original name was Caryn Elaine Johnson. So she has been changing names to hide her identity. We're on to you, Guinan!
Ive just seen this - please tell me your doing a book...Guinan and Qs past is killing me.
There is that TNG sketch from Comic Relief, in which some of the bridge crew note Whhoo-pie (pronounced funny) Goldberg loos like Guinan...
Back in the day, wasn't there a rumor that Guinan would turn up in an episode of ENT, this time as a United Earth government official?
She was suppose to be in “Rivals” in DS9 and the El-Aurian in that episode was suppose to be her son that she had hinted at as getting into trouble.
I find it interesting that when Q first meets Guinan in Ten-Forward, Guinan actually strikes a defensive posture. Like there's anything she could possibly do? 
Since Q also got into a defensive pose and talked as though he feared her, apparently there is something she could do.I find it interesting that when Q first meets Guinan in Ten-Forward, Guinan actually strikes a defensive posture. Like there's anything she could possibly do?
IMHO, the only way that scene makes any kind of sense is if the writers were thinking about actually having Guinan be a Q.
Otherwise, I really don't see how this plays out. If Guinan were NOT a Q, how could she possibly defend herself against someone who could turn her into a newt without the slightest hesitation?
(She got better....
)
Otherwise, I really don't see how this plays out. If Guinan were NOT a Q, how could she possibly defend herself against someone who could turn her into a newt without the slightest hesitation?
(She got better....
)
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They never really explained the El-Aurian Race aside from them being long-lived and a race of listeners. Maybe there was something in the past that caused Q to fear them. Guinan seemed to get pleasure when she stabbed Q with that fork!I find it interesting that when Q first meets Guinan in Ten-Forward, Guinan actually strikes a defensive posture. Like there's anything she could possibly do?
Are you perhaps thinking of Dayton Ward's Elusive Salvation, where the Iramahl refugees briefly met Guinan right after "Time's Arrow" before going on to meet Roberts Lincoln right after "Assignment: Earth"?
Actually, if you think about it, the episode Q Who kind of sets the Borg up for being way too powerful. After all, near the start of the episode, we find out Q fears Guinan, than we find out later in that same episode the Borg wiped out Guinan's race. The Borg must be a Big Deal if they pose a legitimate threat to someone who Q is afraid of. That never really got followed up on, aside from a brief bit on Voyager where Q yells at his son that it is not okay to provoke the Borg.
Not necessarily, because there are different ways to be dangerous. Perhaps whatever ability Guinan had that worried Q was on more of a mental level that could affect a being like him, but would have no effect on a more physically oriented power like the Borg. Or perhaps it was an ability unique to Guinan rather than a species-wide trait. After all, she was away from her homeworld when the Borg destroyed it.
A deleted scene from Generations revealed that Guinan's sensitivity to timeline shifts from "Yesterday's Enterprise" was the result of her having been in the Nexus, rather than an innate El-Aurian ability. Maybe that's what Q was alarmed by, that temporal transcendence through her Nexus connection.
In which case, wouldn't that also make Dr. Soran a threat to Q? Shit, they really dropped the ball by not playing up on that to make him the most badass Trek villain possible. He can destroy stars, he killed Captain Kirk, and the Enterprise D was destroyed because of him. Q is also scared shitless of him. Dr. Tolian Soran, Trek's Most Dangerous.
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