GUARDIANS of the GALAXY - Grading & Discussion

[Guy Gardener]

For right now Thanos appears to be playing a chess game of sorts, but I do believe he helped Loki take out Odin and put Loki on the throne of Asgard at the end of The Dark World, I can't see Loki doing that on his own. Plus it was "Odin" who ordered the Aether to be given to the Collector.

There's really no indication that Thanos had anything to do with Loki replacing Odin. That's rather difficult to fit into the timeline of events. And giving the Aether to the Collector doesn't really help Thanos at all.

What timeline? And it's highly unlikely that Loki took out Odin by himself if he could've he'd done it years ago he had to wait for Thor to on earth and Odin was in the Odinsleep when he took over Asgard in the first Thor movie. It's doubtful that Thanos knew where the stones but now that the Tesseract in on Asgard, the power gem in on Xandar and the Collector has the Aether he knows where they are. If the mind is in the sceptor and I think this is likely he knows where it is as well.

It's obviously not a fact, but my impression is that Loki and Odin switched places well before the final battle, so that Odin could go on his adventure with Thor, and then when we saw Loki die in the movie that that was Odin who died.

It was a Parent Trap.

 

[Unicron]

I got the chance to watch in IMAX and it was a lot of fun. I'm not overly familiar with the Guardians, but I think Marvel did an excellent job.

Also...

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

I watched it again and while I'm still disappointed at how formulaic and ho-bum the villain and actual plot is, the movie is bursting with heart and confident humor. Best Star Wars movie since Return of the Jedi

The 70s music adds a lot. I walked out yesterday and am still humming Come and Get your Love.

 

[DWF]

There's really no indication that Thanos had anything to do with Loki replacing Odin. That's rather difficult to fit into the timeline of events. And giving the Aether to the Collector doesn't really help Thanos at all.

What timeline? And it's highly unlikely that Loki took out Odin by himself if he could've he'd done it years ago he had to wait for Thor to on earth and Odin was in the Odinsleep when he took over Asgard in the first Thor movie. It's doubtful that Thanos knew where the stones but now that the Tesseract in on Asgard, the power gem in on Xandar and the Collector has the Aether he knows where they are. If the mind is in the sceptor and I think this is likely he knows where it is as well.

It's obviously not a fact, but my impression is that Loki and Odin switched places well before the final battle, so that Odin could go on his adventure with Thor, and then when we saw Loki die in the movie that that was Odin who died.

It was a Parent Trap.

Not only was Odin with Heimdall when the breakout started but you can see the green glow of Loki's tranfromation into the guy who supposedly found him before he turned towards the camera.

 

[CaptainCanada]

And it's highly unlikely that Loki took out Odin by himself if he could've he'd done it years ago

He didn't want to take out Odin before the events of this movie. The time between Loki's being "found" by the guy Odin sent to look, paced against what Thor and Jane are doing, doesn't really suggest he does anything other than go back to Asgard immediately.

 

[DWF]

And it's highly unlikely that Loki took out Odin by himself if he could've he'd done it years ago

He didn't want to take out Odin before the events of this movie. The time between Loki's being "found" by the guy Odin sent to look, paced against what Thor and Jane are doing, doesn't really suggest he does anything other than go back to Asgard immediately.

And I didn't say he did, but there's no way Loki could take out Odin by himself.

In GOTG we're told that Thanos is the powerful being in the galaxy and we know he clearly wants the Infinity gems but he's not going to about getting them overtly. The tesseract is in the vault in Asgard and with Loki on the throne it maights it easier for him to get it when he wants to ditto with the Aether and the Collector and with the Nova Corps weakened had can get the power gem whenever he watns it.

 

[urbandefault]

Uh, are we talking about comic books or the movie? Because if we're talking about the movie I must have fallen asleep and missed a bunch of stuff.

Crap.

 

[Mr Light]

One article pointed out the fact that none of the heroes seem to give a shit that the Collector is keeping a bunch of sentient aliens prisoner in his collection.

In the comics, the Collector is one of the Elders of the Universe and incredibly powerful so no-one would have a chance against him. But the movie version just seems to be a guy. And he was totally KOed by the gem exploding like that...

 

[DWF]

One article pointed out the fact that none of the heroes seem to give a shit that the Collector is keeping a bunch of sentient aliens prisoner in his collection.

In the comics, the Collector is one of the Elders of the Universe and incredibly powerful so no-one would have a chance against him. But the movie version just seems to be a guy. And he was totally KOed by the gem exploding like that...

The Collector in the comics isn't all that powerful he's just very old but he's been beaten by other beings many times over as have the other Elders of the Universe.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Most of the time we see the Elders without Soul Gems.

How long did they actually have them?

5 minutes or millennia?

Because Thanos got hold of them in the late 70s as well, so their possession has not been consistent.

 

[DWF]

Most of the time we see the Elders without Soul Gems.

How long did they actually have them?

5 minutes or millennia?

Because Thanos got hold of them in the late 70s as well, so their possession has not been consistent.

Thanos originally didn't get them from the Elders, Adam Warlock had the soul gem til he died and the Stranger had one of them as well. In the '90s though the Elders plus the Inbetweener had them.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

One article pointed out the fact that none of the heroes seem to give a shit that the Collector is keeping a bunch of sentient aliens prisoner in his collection.

In the comics, the Collector is one of the Elders of the Universe and incredibly powerful so no-one would have a chance against him. But the movie version just seems to be a guy. And he was totally KOed by the gem exploding like that...

I don't think "knocked out by the power gem" is the same as just a regular guy. Generally, if something from the comics explains something, it's a good idea to assume it's still true unless actually contradicted - which it's not. The only reason to think the Collector is just a guy is that we haven't seen what he could do. Although I'd argue surviving the power gem (others seemed to at least have cover more than he did) is a good indication that he's more than he seems.

Anyway, it's not really all that surprising that people selling a stolen Orb for a massive amount of money aren't going to do too much to piss off their buyer. The universe is a nasty place. What the Collector does isn't unique in that regard. And, after the deal fell through, they had other issues.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I voted A+. I was just hugely entertained from start to finish. Hardly a bum note in this movie. Every performance was spot-on. I expected Chris Pratt to be good but he was great, both goofy and dashing. Michael Rooker was nearly as much fun as in Walking Dead. Bradley Cooper was a revelation in his voice work as Rocket and the CGI for that character and Groot was amazing. I thought Dave Batusta's delivery and comic timing were brilliant. And so on.

Can't praise it enough. Best space movie since forever

 

[Unicron]

I'll admit, it's still strange for me to think of Cooper voicing Rocket. Not that it was a bad call in any way - he did a fantastic job, and in a rather unique voice compared to his other roles. But for some reason when I picture the character, he's not the first person who springs to mind.

I think one of the movie's biggest strengths was that it felt like a proper ensemble for the team. Star Lord might be the first character we meet, but the other Guardians all got fleshed out enough to make them individuals and interesting characters. Marvel tends to do very well with that most of the time.

 

[Cyke101]

Just saw it. I'm sure I'll have deeper and more fleshed out thoughts, but I will say from the get-go that I am SO glad that we don't have overdubbed, Zimmer-like, overly serious soundtrack music. Instead, we got Redbone and Marvin Gaye. YES YES YES.

 

[sojourner]

I hope this movie heralds the return of movies with rock songs on the soundtrack. Kenny Loggins needs work.

 

[CorporalClegg]

While the soundtrack was good, I thought they could have tried a little harder with the song selection. Most of the choices were standard soundtrack fare. It seemed a little off the mark for the scope of the film, like breaking out breaking out the fine china and setting it on plastic placemats of Rockwell prints.

 

[Cyke101]

While the soundtrack was good, I thought they could have tried a little harder with the song selection. Most of the choices were standard soundtrack fare. It seemed a little off the mark for the scope of the film, like breaking out breaking out the fine china and setting it on plastic placemats of Rockwell prints.

I myself liked the fact that there was a mix between rock, soul, and R&B, rather than depending on just one (primarily rock) genre.

On a side note, I'm really surprised by Bautista here. I don't watch wrestling so I don't know much of his acting talent, but I thought he delivered quite well here. He was funny or serious whenever he needed to be, but he also just gelled as well as anyone else on the team.

 

[Warped9]

I saw it last night. Loved it. Solid A from me.

I didn't know anything about Guardians going in. And I was well into the second act before I got all the names straitened out, but I didn't care. The jokes hit on all the right beats and were how I was able to connect to the characters and care about what was going on.

It didn't take itself at all seriously, which I found to be a refreshing change form the comic book norm. It had just the right amount of silliness and camp.

The plot may have been thin and the bad guy a walking cliché, but that was the whole point! It worked perfectly for the tone of the film.

The one thing I did find a bit incredulous though, was an off-brand cassette still playing (In tune!) after 16 years of continuous use.

Close to how I felt. It works well enough as an entertaining space adventure on its own without being heavily connected to the Marvel Universe of previous films. It had something of a Star Wars vibe to it except that I like GofG a helluva lot more than any of the SW films. Part of it might have to do with GotG having much better writing and acting overall.

 

[DWF]

On a side note, I'm really surprised by Bautista here. I don't watch wrestling so I don't know much of his acting talent, but I thought he delivered quite well here. He was funny or serious whenever he needed to be, but he also just gelled as well as anyone else on the team.

You should see Riddick, you'd hardly recognize Bautista in that movie.