Grimm - Season 5

[Thestral]

Gotta say, not really gonna miss Juliette. She was a non-character for much of her run on the show with the "turning evil" bit the only time she really got developed.

What made it worse IMO was that Juliette went from kind of meh but nice enough, to an excruciating amnesia plot, to being legitimately cool as a supporting element of Team Grimm - the whole "You need to be a Grimm again" thing especially was a great moment for her character IMO - and then directly into a horrible permanent derail.

There was that short window of time when Juliette became a Hexenbiest, and all the other primary and secondary characters became fully aware of everything that was going on. It looked like it was really going to be an effective Wessen-fighting ensemble...

Even before that though - albeit before Wu found out the truth as well - you had a good crew.

And one element that I never liked much was the whole Woge thing, the way all these species of inhuman creature go around hidden in human form 95% of the time and only briefly show their true faces when provoked. That just screams "We don't have a big budget so we're gonna cheat and have our monsters look human most of the time." And the CGI Woge effects have never looked very good.

The "Game Face" is just an artifact of having David Greenwalt as a co-creator if you ask me, and just one of a number of spiritual connections to the Buffyverse.

 

[sojourner]

I still wish that just for variety they had some crimes to solve that didn't involve wesen.

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

I still wish that just for variety they had some crimes to solve that didn't involve wesen.

That would be a novel twist for this show.

 

[Christopher]

There have been cases where Wesen have been the victims rather than the perpetrators. But it's still an absurd coincidence that every single case the Grimm homicide cop gets assigned to just happens to involve Wesen or some other kind of magical entity in one way or another. They actually tried to address this last season -- Wu asked Captain Renard how many crimes were Wesen-related, and Renard (who is half-Wesen himself) said that most of them were. Which is a very disturbing thing to reveal in such a throwaway fashion. The show keeps trying to have it both ways -- "Wesen are ordinary people no different from you or me" and "Wesen are deadly monsters behind all the great evils of the world." It just can't make up its mind. And it never makes the effort to really commit to in-depth exploration of any of the ideas it tosses out.

 

[JD]

I've always assumed that they were dealing with other normal cases between the Wesen cases, but that we just didn't see them.
Maybe it would work better if they had Renard or somebody else high up who's in the know specifically assign them cases that they knew or suspected were Wesen related.

 

[Christopher]

I've always assumed that they were dealing with other normal cases between the Wesen cases, but that we just didn't see them.

That just doesn't fit with the serialized nature of the show, where subplots tend to be continuous from one episode to the next. It doesn't leave room for a lot of other stuff in between.

And even if Nick and Hank did get other, non-Wesen cases, getting a couple of dozen Wesen-related cases per year would still be hugely coincidental. Which is why the show needed to lampshade it (clumsily) by giving Renard that throwaway line about most crime being Wesen-related.

Maybe it would work better if they had Renard or somebody else high up who's in the know specifically assign them cases that they knew or suspected were Wesen related.

That would work now, but I don't think it would've worked in the first season, when Renard was more adversarial toward Nick.

 

[sojourner]

So what happens when you get a half wesen, half Grimm child?

 

[Taylirious]

Superman!

ETA: David Giuntoli reminds me of Brandon Routh for some reason.

 

[Christopher]

David Giuntoli reminds me of Brandon Routh for some reason.

I don't see the resemblance. Brandon Routh can actually act.

 

[sojourner]

David Giuntoli reminds me of Brandon Routh for some reason.

I don't see the resemblance. Brandon Routh can actually act.

Physically, they share a few traits.

 

[Dream]

Grimm returns with new episodes starting tonight! Back at its original 9/8c PM timeslot.

Recap of the first four seasons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yYPvNfweZw
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yYPvNfweZw[/yt]

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

Monster energy drink is a proud sponsor of the Grimm War.

 

[Dream]

Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego... ummm... I meant Trubel?

I liked it. But I think this was the first Grimm season premiere that didn't lead to a part 2. Nick being pissed, but nothing earth shaking. I guess the new bad guys of the season killed the group at the end? Adalind had the baby, so glad they weren't going to drag that out for another season, so at least that was accomplished this epsiode.

Juliette is SO alive. No body means not dead in television land.

Yeah, that final claw rip on the screen in the last city shot was cheesy as hell.

 

[JD]

Yeah, that claw rip was just ridiculous. I couldn't believe they actually put that in there.
They are actually off to a really good start. I've had a lot of issue with the last couple seasons, but I really didn't have any problems with this one. I was a disappointed they wrote out Truble so quickly. At least we know she is probably alive based on the preview.
They did give us some intruiging set up here for this season's arc. I'm curious all of this is going to tie back into the whole Royals vs Laufer/Resistance storyline, or something completely new.
I am very curious to see exactly how they are going to handle Adalind and little Kelly.

 

[sojourner]

Pretty sure the producers have indicated that the royals storyline is done.

 

[sojourner]

So, Juliette is dead. No body. All of Nick's neighbors were killed. What exactly is he telling people? Her co-workers? Her family? Shouldn't he be prime suspect number 1 in a police investigation by now?

 

[Dream]

So, Juliette is dead. No body. All of Nick's neighbors were killed. What exactly is he telling people? Her co-workers? Her family? Shouldn't he be prime suspect number 1 in a police investigation by now?

That's just terrible writing like most of season 4. Don't think about it too hard, the writers certainly haven't.

 

[cylkoth]

So, Juliette is dead. No body. All of Nick's neighbors were killed. What exactly is he telling people? Her co-workers? Her family? ?

Only 2-3 neighbors were killed, and their case is being handled by other cops under the watchful eye of the Captain.

You make a good point of him, or the writers, not bothering to come up with a cover story to explain her absence. Obviously, they aren't telling anyone she's, *cough* dead, but there should be some drama derived from having to hide what became of her.
I guess in tv land, if a character never mentions their family, they must not have one! So the writers don't need to bother themselves with pesky details....

 

[JD]

This season's been off to a good start. There haven't been any scenes that have made me want to through my remote through the TV.

 

[JD]

I have kind of mixed feelings about last night's episode. Both stories were good overall, but the whole Rat King thing just felt unnecissary. I think it was pretty interesting, but it really felt like it didn't need to be there. It just felt like it was there because they needed to have a case of the week. They didn't even start the investigation until half-way through the episode. I think it would have worked better if they just gave the Trubel stuff it's own complete episode, and the Rat King story it's own episode. But it still was better than the last season or two.