I'm not sure I understand what is wrong with what you quoted?
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I'm not sure I understand what is wrong with what you quoted?
Ok, there might have been an issue of GL/GA that involved a murder, I don't remember every single issue with perfect clarity, but the overall story was about Green Arrow basically trying to get Hal Jordan to reconnect with humanity, through a road trip around the US. It was not a murder mystery story in general, or specifically set in "the heartland", and has no relation to the terrible show being made by King/Lindelof.
I thought the murder thing was something the show was supposed to be about. I still don't understand that complaint.
It isn't, really.
Is this the first GL project he's been involved in?
The producers have specifically referenced True Detective when talking about the inspiration for the show.
If it makes you feel any better it's also from the guy who made The Leftovers and the Watchman series.
I've never heard of The Leftovers and I didn't watch the Watchmen series (I don't like the comic, only the Snyder movie weirdly enough, and I heard that the TV series story is basically a lose sequel to the comic so I never bothered).
Honestly I don't have strong feelings toward Lindelof, I know he does bad work but I never cared for Lost anyway so my negative opinion of him is more just based off his track record, its not personal. My feelings toward Tom King however are very intense and very negative, even if I liked Lindelof it wouldn't compensate for King being involved. I hope people watching the show don't care about Hal Jordan or John Stewart, because King has a habit of ruining popular characters by turning them into "in name only" OCs, generally with some terrible personal trait (its a good thing that James Gunn is using Guy Gardner, King has a bad track record with the character).
As for the GL show in general, I also hate True Detective, well at least the 10 minutes of the first episode I could stand to watch years ago, so thats another knock against the show for me, although its hardly necessary at this point.
You gotta love Tom King's version of Guy Gardner, a horribly abusive boyfriend
. That alone proves that Tom King never read a GL comic a day in his life, but luckily The Human Target wasn't canon (for those who don't know, Guy Gardner, for all his faults, would no sooner beat his girlfriend then Superman would beat Lois Lane, but Tom King doesn't care about previous characterization because that would require him writing a single story that respected a character or the comic universe).
Speedy, GA's partner was the addict.
Ollie didn't lose his fortune to the IRS. He was set up by a rival to take the fall for financial malfeasance
I think the toy salesman thing took place in "the big city" not the heartland. And was pretty much dropped when Hal and Oliie became the "Hard Traveling Heroes".
I just think that the intent of this show will be to emulate the arc from the 70s. I won't argue about O'Neil being a great writer--still one of my all time favorites.
I think the point was, traveling the US in a pick up truck isn't exactly "Green Lantern work" either. It was pretty far removed from anything GL or GA had been doing previously and pretty much reinvented both characters. It most definitely wasn't the culmination of years of character development, because neither character had been developed. Each stop along the way dealt with a different social or political issue. Racism, pollution, corruption and most famously drug addiction. Not the typical fare for Green Lantern.
I doubt this show will follow that path. Though like Hal and Ollie, Hal and John will no doubt have different points of view. (John sure did when he first showed up) And as cops (even space cops) how can solving a murder be out of their purview?
I'm not surprised my post -- despite its purely anodyne and factual nature -- would elicit this response from you, given your previous rantings on the subject at any and every opportunity.You gotta love Tom King's version of Guy Gardner, a horribly abusive boyfriend
Your familiar refrain that King "has never read X comic or character" simply because you don't find his portrayal of those characters to your personal liking is not a good look, given its obvious and patent falsity. King's books invariably show how steeped in the lore of these characters he actually is, with deep dives into the established histories of characters like Christopher Chance, Ice, and Supergirl richly informing King's indelible treatment of them.
As for Guy Gardner, King's use of him in The Human Target is as inspired as everything else about that brilliant book.
Both the Leftovers and Watchmen were highly acclaimed series, just the same as Lost was for a good chunk of it's run. S while some of the movies he worked on didn't get the best reception, his recent TV work has gotten a much more positive reception.
You seem to be in a pretty significant minority in regards to both King and True Detective.My feelings toward Tom King however are very intense and very negative, even if I liked Lindelof it wouldn't compensate for King being involved. I hope people watching the show don't care about Hal Jordan or John Stewart, because King has a habit of ruining popular characters by turning them into "in name only" OCs, generally with some terrible personal trait (its a good thing that James Gunn is using Guy Gardner, King has a bad track record with the character).
As for the GL show in general, I also hate True Detective, well at least the 10 minutes of the first episode I could stand to watch years ago, so thats another knock against the show for me, although its hardly necessary at this point.
You gotta love Tom King's version of Guy Gardner, a horribly abusive boyfriend
Speedy was into heroin.
Bad stuff.
But you cannot tell me that (comics) Ollie (of that era) does not smoke a bowl now and then?
Same here. He's one of the few writers who had been capable of elevating many books, often giving them their greatest stories. The Green Lantern/Green Arrow run is near or at the top of that list of the way O'Neil transformed characters/books into great comics.
Not typical, but what brilliant way to bring GL (and the Guardians) down from their judgemental throne to force them to see real people dealing with real, tragic consequences having not a thing to do with the alien attack of the week, or--at that time--a nice gathering of the JLA for another one-off adventure.
Sure I can, because the comics (of that era) never showed or even implied that Ollie "Smoked a bowl now and then. In fact it's entirely possible to have lived through that era as a counter cultural free spirit hippie and not have "smoked a bowl". My sister in law managed it.
22,300 miles above the equator, it wasn't even illegal.
Never be afraid to have an unpopular opinion, especially about something like pop culture that is very low stakes anyway. I'm not pretending that my opinion on King is common, but it is based on his work. He bulldozes over everything without any care for other writers, their stories, or the previous characterization of characters, which I find inconsiderate if not lazy. He treats every character like he owns them and then when he's done with the characters he moves on, usually leaving shit for other writers to clean up in his wake (this only applies to his in-continuity work obviously). I don't like that, so I don't care if he's technically a good writer, he's not a good contributor to an ongoing universe of stories that should be bigger then one man's ego.
As for True Detective, I long ago came to terms with the fact that I hate "prestige" TV. They're all paced badly, obsessed with realism (for the most part) and usually (but not always) have enough nudity to qualify as porn. There is no kind of TV show that I hate more then a "prestige" type show.
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