It was a fantastic idea.
Exactly. I don't think I'd want to see a spandex suit after this. I would look too odd and out of place. That's unless it has special properties that other ring constructs don't have.
Green Lantern movie might reboot
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The Hal Jordan you described doesn't sound very likeable, either.
^He's not. I said that, too. He's a much more likeable character than the one we got in the movie, though.
Not as much as you might think. He actually does have a book with all of the superheroine phone numbers. He's bribed Guy Gardner with it before. A whole lot of his characterization is actually how arrogant he is. He gets called on it plenty, by his friends and enemies alike.
Sounds very much like RDJ's Tony Stark! The audience seems to love him well enough. Asshole characters can be popular enough with the right actor.
Which is why many fans (myself included) think that Ryan Reynolds was horribly miscast. For many of us, as unlikely as this is, Nathan Fillion would have made a perfect Hal Jordan. At least he got to voice him in Emerald Knights, even though that movie barely featured Hal.
Naw - I've been reading Green Lantern since the Hal Jordan character first appeared in Showcase, and I thought it was great. Most of the GL fans I know liked it a great deal, though probably only one enjoyed it as much (a bit more, actually) than I did. The Corps in particular was just dead-on. The one problem I had with that was the Guardians - if you're going to do characters who are that close to human, unless you're willing and able to do the CG as well as Avatar did then you should use human actors instead (as they did with Mark Strong for Sinestro).
Fillion comes across now as way too old to headline this kind of a flick, he hasn't built the career profile and he's not particularly reminiscent of Jordan in the comics - in some ways he's the equivalent of the eternal trekkie call for Liotta as Christopher Pike and Sinese as McCoy in the Trek movies, based on a perceived resemblance and a sort of commercially meaningless trufan consensus. Reynolds was a good choice - Bradley Cooper or Chris Pine, also rumored as possibilities for the first film, would also have been choices that would probably have worked both in terms of their screen presence and career positioning.
If they were to go with John Stewart for a second film, they really should try to get Will Smith - he's still the closet thing to a bankable actor working now.
That was the closest thing we're going to get to a Green Lantern movie that's really faithful to the comic and the mythos. Now they'll adapt the material in a more practical, traditionally Hollywood fashion.
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Honestly green lantern is a perfect character for a reboot since theres more than one
You have
Alan Scott
John Stewart
Kyle Rayner
Guy gardner
Dc could even make its own avengers style team up with just lanterns
You have
Alan Scott
John Stewart
Kyle Rayner
Guy gardner
Dc could even make its own avengers style team up with just lanterns
And again in Justice League: Doom.
But have you seen Fillion lately? He's gained a lot of weight since his Captain Tightpants days. I really don't think he could pull off a live-action superhero role anymore.
I'm sure that if Warners actually does a Justice League movie the way that GL is presented in that film will presage whatever they have in mind.
I think if Man of Steel does well, they could use Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan in The Justice League, and people would like the character, because they already know him from the Green Lantern Movie (Despite the fact the movie didn't do well). I don't think people will remember the movie didn't do well, and won't hold it against the character, they'll just remember they know Reynolds as Hal Jordan.
As has been mentioned "The Daddy Issues" were a character arc, so, that wouldn't be used in a next appearance for Reynolds as Hal Jordan, he would pick up where the character was at the end of the movie
As has been mentioned "The Daddy Issues" were a character arc, so, that wouldn't be used in a next appearance for Reynolds as Hal Jordan, he would pick up where the character was at the end of the movie
Reynolds is dating Blake Lively, lucky bastard. I'd love to see her back as Carol Ferris.
The arc could've been from one of pure ego to humility. That's what makes him different than Sinestro, Jordan is compassionate. So maybe the movie begins with WAHOO, I fucking ROCK! to Hey, I need to take this job seriously. Rather than "I was never good enough for Daddy"! to "See Daddy, see what I can do!"
That pretty much was his arc, except with the addition that his ego was a front for his guilt and insecurities.
A problem with GL is that Jordan's story doesn't represent much of a character arc or evolution to hang drama on. Johns and others have tried, over the decades, to retrofit something that works on to the original very schematic story line, with varying and ultimately limited degrees of success.*
This probably partially explains the Green Lantern writers turning to Iron Man as a template (that, and the desire to emulate the enormous and unexpected success of that movie of course
). Stark is a similarly attractive, confident, gifted and well-rewarded individual with no real history of personal struggle or apparent insecurity. That said, life-threatening personal trauma is the heart - pun intended - of IM's origin, something that makes the story work for film and gives it a dramatic hook that Jordan sadly continues to lack.
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* The "lost father" back story worked well enough for a comic book story in Green Lantern: Secret Origin and Johns managed to build some depth into Jordan's relationship with Carol Ferris and her father to boot; Cooke's take on the character in New Frontier was a good one too.
This probably partially explains the Green Lantern writers turning to Iron Man as a template (that, and the desire to emulate the enormous and unexpected success of that movie of course
). Stark is a similarly attractive, confident, gifted and well-rewarded individual with no real history of personal struggle or apparent insecurity. That said, life-threatening personal trauma is the heart - pun intended - of IM's origin, something that makes the story work for film and gives it a dramatic hook that Jordan sadly continues to lack.____________________________________________
* The "lost father" back story worked well enough for a comic book story in Green Lantern: Secret Origin and Johns managed to build some depth into Jordan's relationship with Carol Ferris and her father to boot; Cooke's take on the character in New Frontier was a good one too.
That's true of a lot of DC characters, which is no doubt why the development process to get them on screen has been so labored. Superman and Batman have dramatic character arcs inherent in their origin, as do almost all Marvel characters, but a lot of DC characters started out with pure wish fulfilment origins. As you say, writers have subsequently rewritten those origins to layer in more depth, albeit with varying degrees of success.
I think some DC characters lend themselves to a more classic action/adventure approach where there isn't a transformative character arc, although modern screenwriting conventions are very resistant to that.
I think some DC characters lend themselves to a more classic action/adventure approach where there isn't a transformative character arc, although modern screenwriting conventions are very resistant to that.
Yeah, Marvel's characters tend to have more interesting origins; only Supes and Batman are more archetypical. Superman's origin, in particular, is the best story about the character that there is - one more reason that folks writing TV and movies always want to return to it. The only other Superman stories that come close, really, are various versions of his death.
I was amused to see Jay Garrick's new origin in Earth 2 essentially parallel Hal Jordan's.
I was amused to see Jay Garrick's new origin in Earth 2 essentially parallel Hal Jordan's.
For me, the guilt and insecurities and his Daddy issues was in the forefront... And not handled well... I still sort of giggle at the scene with his Dad dying... OMG, very funny.
