Greatest Invention in the Franchise...

[shapeshifter]

Did TOS even have replicators? They had food synthesizers, IIRC...

Thread title is

Greatest Invention in the Franchise...

Not in TOS exclusively.

ETA The post responded to from the prior page.

 

[Farscape One]

If someone thinks a TOS invention is the greatest in the franchise, I'm fine with that. Their greatest invention is just as valid as what I think is the greatest and what everyone else thinks is their greatest.

After all, some people have only watched certain shows.

Besides... a lot of the inventions we saw first on TOS. Warp drive, transporters, hyposprays. The other shows just made those inventions better.

 

[dupersuper]

As Discovery made explicit, it's literally their shit. So there will be plenty for everyone.

I still say they went back to 22nd century style replicators after the burn blew most of their dilithium and the 23rd/24th/25th etc. century replicators were the magical "raw energy into matter" devices they were sold to us as.

Did TOS even have replicators? They had food synthesizers, IIRC...

TOS never used the term, but we see Burnham replicate a uniform in Discovery a decade or so earlier.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I still say they went back to 22nd century style replicators after the burn blew most of their dilithium and the 23rd/24th/25th etc. century replicators were the magical "raw energy into matter" devices they were sold to us as.

Spoiler: ST:TNG Technical Manual section on Replicators

Can Replicators transform raw energy into matter; yes but it's VERY HIGHLY energy intense & expensive.

That's why they have raw food stock and raw matter material in it's stores. Ready to be assembled.
It's FAR less energy intensive to assemble existing raw matter then it is to manufacture new RAW matter straight from energy.

That's why harvesting RAW matter and processing refined RAW elements & alloys will be critical to the replicator economy. You need good quality stock RAW materials to use with replicators across the entire periodic table including pre-assembled alloys of common materials being used.

 

[Sgt_G]

In my head, TOS food processors / synthesizers take "Food Goo" and convert it to something the looks and feels and tastes like real food. Food Goo is, as the name suggests, a paste / gel made up of all the hydro-carbon compounds that make up most real food. In theory, Food Goo is edible in the raw form, but nobody has been able to try more than the tiniest nibble.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

In my head, TOS food processors / synthesizers take "Food Goo" and convert it to something the looks and feels and tastes like real food. Food Goo is, as the name suggests, a paste / gel made up of all the hydro-carbon compounds that make up most real food. In theory, Food Goo is edible in the raw form, but nobody has been able to try more than the tiniest nibble.

So similar to modern 3D food printers.

 

[publiusr]

One of the things I recall was the "triox compound" injected into Kirk at the close of "The Tholian web."

About that:
"We've designed fluids that can transport O2 at densities that exceed that of blood, which opens up exciting new opportunities for transporting gases for a variety of biomedical and energy applications."
https://phys.org/news/2022-09-oxygen.html

 

[Sgt_G]

I always wondered, how is triox different from ozone??

 

[DEWLine]

Looking back, I'm thinking that - given computer capability improvements expected/assumed over the centuries to come - "nearly 4,500 foods" is a low number for replicability by 1701-D's systems.

 

[Farscape One]

I can agree with that, given how many foods we have just now on only this planet. Never mind hundreds of other worlds.

 

[publiusr]

I always wondered, how is triox different from ozone??

Well O3 is ozone of course...

Tri-ox might be three different fluids in a mix that hold oxygen...rather like a so called polypill now being looked at:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-10-polypill-millions-premature-deaths-heart.html

Now there is a way to have cells make their own oxygen...
https://phys.org/news/2022-10-oxygen-cells.html
As reported in PNAS, investigators at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) recently developed a technology that allows them to engineer cells to make oxygen on demand in response to an added chemical.

Too much of a good thing
https://phys.org/news/2023-03-oxygen-cells-tissues.html

Oxygen doesn't need biology--
https://phys.org/news/2022-10-abiotic-pathway-formation-oxygen.html
Sterile waterworlds may have oxygen atmospheres

You have to be careful though. You don't give pure oxygen to someone having a heart attack due to vasoconstriction....and I have heard it said that oxygen and water are two of DNA's worst frienemies...due to dissolvability

Trek-like meds closer
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-electricity-wound.html
https://thedebrief.org/this-futuris...ds-by-harvesting-electricity-out-of-thin-air/


Another find may lead to tri-ox
https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwor...-oxygen-delivered-tissues-open-door-new-class

“We have a major mystery in medicine,” Dr. Stamler explained. “Even when people die from ‘low oxygen’ they still have lots of oxygen left in the bloodstream. Yet medications that increase blood flow are unable to increase oxygen delivery. There are millions of patients across both major and rare diseases that have disorders of oxygen delivery, and we have no way to improve that situation.”

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Phaser banks are pretty cool.

Subs might have them one day
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/us-navy-submarine-extendible-turret-system-sets.8522/