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Spoilers Gotham - Season 2

Pretty mush as soon as the episode finished on the east coast, CBR had already posted bits of an interview with Bruno Heller did with Deadline about the end of "The Last Laugh".
Bruno Heller via CBR and Deadline said:
The creation of the Joker is a larger and more epic story than people realize, and this show is very much about kind of the deep, secret history," Heller told Deadline. "So, as the show rolls on, people will see how a mythology is born, how a kind of cultural mien is created that will lead us to the Joker himself."
Bruno Heller via CBR and Deadline said:
"When the Joker appears, he is an inevitable part of the history of Gotham," Heller continued. "He’s not someone who created himself out of nothing. He’s part of a whole cultural history, a whole tradition. I know that sounds kind of highfalutin, but that’s what the twist is about."
 
I wasn't surprised Jerome was killed. I was surprised the killed him so soon. Though, I guess I shouldn't have been. It's the same old Gotham story: the ended the character/plot that was working for one that isn't. It's the same thing they did over and over again last year with Fish.

Jerome had a lot of potential (Joker or not.), but they flushed it all down the toilet so they could spoon feed us a poorly written, poorly acted trite, uninteresting, and uninspired bad guy and his silly Dr. Evilian plot. The guy has no charisma, no personality, and none of the quirkiness that make for great villains. He's super generic, and his whole background/grievance comes strait off the shelves of Clichés R Us.

And by the looks of things, he's going to be around all year long.

On top of all that, Gordon, Bullock, and Bruce should never have made it out of the episode alive. It's stretching believability to the max.

Alfred just came off as creepy and awkward.

And, just like early last season, Selena's presence was utterly pointless aside from they needed to fill Bicondova's appearance quota.
 
At least they mentioned the mayor, I'm sure it's been more than 48 since he disappeared, but then police procedure is the show's strong point. Selina seems like she's learened alot from Barbara last season, she still doesn't look like a homeless girl.
 
Tabitha ... Talia?

Theo Galivan ... Ra's al Ghul? Gosh, I hope not, the man lacks any sort of Charisma.

Jerome ... destined for a Lazarus pit instead of an acid vat?

I found it curious that they never covered Jerome's face after he died.

Just random thoughts.
 
Pretty mush as soon as the episode finished on the east coast, CBR had already posted bits of an interview with Bruno Heller did with Deadline about the end of "The Last Laugh".
Bruno Heller via CBR and Deadline said:
The creation of the Joker is a larger and more epic story than people realize, and this show is very much about kind of the deep, secret history," Heller told Deadline. "So, as the show rolls on, people will see how a mythology is born, how a kind of cultural mien is created that will lead us to the Joker himself."
Bruno Heller via CBR and Deadline said:
"When the Joker appears, he is an inevitable part of the history of Gotham," Heller continued. "He’s not someone who created himself out of nothing. He’s part of a whole cultural history, a whole tradition. I know that sounds kind of highfalutin, but that’s what the twist is about."

And they have a plan
 
Tabitha ... Talia?

Theo Galivan ... Ra's al Ghul? Gosh, I hope not, the man lacks any sort of Charisma.

Jerome ... destined for a Lazarus pit instead of an acid vat?

I found it curious that they never covered Jerome's face after he died.

Just random thoughts.

Nope.
nope.
nope.
 
The actor who plays Galavan was really good on Orphan Black...so its the writing/directing....

So now at this rate, we can expect Bullock to go in 2 episodes, Ms. Kringle in 4...
 
And they have a plan
...until it turned out they didn't have a plan at all. :lol:

EDIT: Don't forget how badly Heller screwed up Red John. He pulled the red herring stunt on The Mentalist as well, and the actual Red Jon, after being hyped for six consecutive seasons, turned out rather unremarkable. Especially compared to the first red herring (played by Bradley Whitford) who had some actual sinister charisma to him that Heller decided to waste.
 
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Nice to know that even though you don't watch this show anymore you'll still be complaining about it.

I can't stand to watch it anymore, but I still can't quite look away... :lol:

I know exactly how you feel. I was that way with Voyager and Enterprise. I tended to have them on while I was doing something else, so I could at least be conversant on the episodes here, but didn't have to pay enough attention that I wanted to put my foot through the TV. :)
 
I wish this show had a little less of the Burton-esque stylistics and was more of a straightforward crime thriller. Or still gothic, but less silly.

Oh yeah, and there's going to be a MAGICIAN at the children's benefit... just in case we didn't hear them the first fifty times they said that. :rolleyes:

Kor
 
I wish this show had a little less of the Burton-esque stylistics and was more of a straightforward crime thriller. Or still gothic, but less silly.

Oh yeah, and there's going to be a MAGICIAN at the children's benefit... just in case we didn't hear them the first fifty times they said that. :rolleyes:

Kor

I thought they would use that opportunity for a nod to Zatara (who taught Bruce sleight of hand, escape artistry, etc. in the comics) but nope, I was wrong.
 
There is a pretty strong resemblance between Reubens and Taylor. So it works even aside from the in-joke.

Hold on, though... This means Penguin's father is Bat-Mite!
 
Gotham equaled the series low last week.

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The ratings are still high enough for a renewal, but I'm eager to see how last week's controversial ending will affect this weeks ratings.
 
Ah, but is that live ratings or does it include the ever increasing time-shifted demo? ;)

Personally, the moment I got a DVR I immediately stopped watching shows on the day they air.
 
Ah, but is that live ratings or does it include the ever increasing time-shifted demo? ;)

Personally, the moment I got a DVR I immediately stopped watching shows on the day they air.
Do you also watch the recorded commercials, or do you fast forward?
 
I look at them very carefully as I fast forward past them, letting them seep into my subconscious and impact my purchasing decisions ;)

I can only imagine that commercials are crafted in a such a way nowadays that they're primarily made to catch the eye of someone fast-forwarding past them.
 
I look at them very carefully as I fast forward past them, letting them seep into my subconscious and impact my purchasing decisions ;)

I can only imagine that commercials are crafted in a such a way nowadays that they're primarily made to catch the eye of someone fast-forwarding past them.
Makes sense.

Have you ever heard of a poorly rated TV show saved by redeeming DVR numbers? This is not a rhetorical question.
 
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