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Spoilers Gotham - Season 2

So is the pronunciation of Fries here the correct one? I'd always assumed it was simply an alternate spelling of Freeze.
The introductions of Freeze and Strange were really good.
I was a little surprised we got that bit with Cat seeing Butch and Tabitha, but then they never went back to her. I'm assuming that will come into play later.
 
JD said:
So is the pronunciation of Fries here the correct one? I'd always assumed it was simply an alternate spelling of Freeze.
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No, it isn't correct. The "Victor Fries" name was created by Paul Dini for Batman: The Animated Series, and that show always used the proper German pronunciation of the name, like "freeze," not like "Do you want fries with that?" (I mean, he is Mr. Freeze, after all, not the Condiment King.) I caught the last moments of the episode, and hearing them pronounce it like "french fries" was just bizarre -- like hearing Ra's al Ghul's name pronounced "Roz" in the Nolan movies when it was always "Raysh" in animation. (Arrow splits the difference -- people who are on the side of Ra's pronounce it "Raysh" while those who are against him use "Roz.")
 
The scene between Cobblepot and Nygma where he asked him to visit his mother's grave occasionally was a nice change of pace from the usual Penguin nastiness. Arkham is so awful it's easy to sympathize with Oswald.
 
Christopher said:
No, it isn't correct. The "Victor Fries" name was created by Paul Dini for Batman: The Animated Series, and that show always used the proper German pronunciation of the name, like "freeze," not like "Do you want fries with that?" (I mean, he is Mr. Freeze, after all, not the Condiment King.) I caught the last moments of the episode, and hearing them pronounce it like "french fries" was just bizarre -- like hearing Ra's al Ghul's name pronounced "Roz" in the Nolan movies when it was always "Raysh" in animation. (Arrow splits the difference -- people who are on the side of Ra's pronounce it "Raysh" while those who are against him use "Roz.")
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When are we going to see him appear?!

Yeah much like Doctor Otto Octavius the character's names usually have a foreshadowing to their true/soon to be identity.
 
To be fair, Bullock wasn't pronouncing it "fries," he was pronouncing it more like "frice." Not that it's anymore correct, assuming it's a German name. Ares of Chicago and Sweden both have different pronunciations for it, at least according to this site.
 
Hopefully Strange will stay calm and calculating... Galavan was interesting at first, but then felt like a comic-y villain by the end.

I love Penguin...but at some point, he DOES need to be jailed...but sprung when Batman gets on the scene
 
"Xcuse my ignorance but this Dr. Strange is no relation to the marvel property?
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I can't believe Bruce and Alfred don't even appear in the mid-season premiere :brickwall: I know it's really Gordon's show but yeesh!
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I did not even notice their absence!

That being said, enjoyable episode as always. It's so OTT and cartoonish I can't help but be entertained.
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Best episode yet. I am chomping at the bit for more!
 
JD said:
Not that I know of. He's not at all connected to anything magical, or mystical, he's just an evil shrink.
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I just wonder if they will mention it in any way, or have some excuse to not call him Dr. Strange.

Also, any comic fans have a sense of how BD WOng is doing?
 
Keeper said:
"Xcuse my ignorance but this Dr. Strange is no relation to the marvel property?
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Hugo Strange is one of the earliest Batman villains, a mad scientist debuting in 1940 as a creation of Bill Finger and Bob Kane. He appeared several times in the early '40s, then vanished until he returned in Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers's classic mid-'70s story arc which also reintroduced Deadshot and introduced Rupert Thorne and Silver St. Cloud. He's been a recurring villain ever since, and has been adapted to the screen in Batman: The Animated Series, The Batman, Young Justice, and the Arkham video games.

Marvel's Doctor Strange (Dr. Stephen Strange) was created by Steve Ditko in 1963. He's a hero, the Sorceror Supreme who defends Earth from mystical threats. He has more in common with DC's Doctor Fate than with Hugo Strange.
 
Thanks.

His line to Cobblepot about looking forward to treating him gave me chills. And the implied meaning certainty wasn't lost on Oswald. His face perfectly mirrored the chills I felt.
 
Morpheus 02 said:
I just wonder if they will mention it in any way, or have some excuse to not call him Dr. Strange.
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Why? You can't copyright a relatively common, real world name. Well you can try but it won't stand up. And while you can trademark the logo for it, that won't be an issue here because you won't be seeing his logo. Besides, I think his trademark is "Doctor Strange" rather than "Dr. Strange." That makes a big difference.

As a fun side note, Dr. Pepper had to change their name to Dr Pepper (no period) due to the whole impersonating a real doctor thing.
 
Wow, I didn't expect them to actually go the whole frozen man route so quickly.
I was kind of confused by why Freis was wearing the suit during his attack on Arkham. Usually it's to keep him cold in the comics, but that wasn't necessary yet here, we already saw him handling his freeze gun in normal clothes, so he didn't need protection, and they already knew who he was, so he didn't need to hide his identity. It just stuck me as one of those things were they did it just because that's how he looks in the comics, but didn't really come up with any reason for why he needed it in this story.
I was surprised they actually killed Nora, since saving her life is usually Freeze's motivation even long after the accident that changed him. I guess since Strange can apparently revive the dead, in this case he'll be wanting to bring her back to life rather than keep her alive.
It was nice to get back to Bruce and Alfred.
 
JD said:
It just stuck me as one of those things were they did it just because that's how he looks in the comics, but didn't really come up with any reason for why he needed it in this story.
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Reason? On Gotham? They don't know the meaning of the word.

I was surprised they actually killed Nora, since saving her life is usually Freeze's motivation even long after the accident that changed him. I guess since Strange can apparently revive the dead, in this case he'll be wanting to bring her back to life rather than keep her alive.
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Or maybe they just completely don't care whether their version of the character has any remaining connection to the source character. That's certainly the route they've taken with Jim Gordon. And Leslie Thompkins. And Silver St. Cloud. And...
 
JD said:
I was surprised they actually killed Nora, since saving her life is usually Freeze's motivation even long after the accident that changed him. I guess since Strange can apparently revive the dead, in this case he'll be wanting to bring her back to life rather than keep her alive.
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We don't know that she died. We just saw her face crack a little. (While sure, in real life having your face split like that would definitely be a Not Good Thing, it's not like we saw her shatter into a million pieces. Hell, the driver whose arms were frozen by Freeze looked to just need some bandages, wherein real life those suckers would need to be amputed.)

That said, what I found weird is how Freeze froze Nora. Why on earth would you start at the feet and work your way up? The pain, not to mention horror of it all, would be tremendous.
 
I really liked the scene between Bruce and Leslie. I keep forgetting that character is actually Leslie Tompkins, Bruce's mother figure, since they insist on calling her Lee. Bruce is finally starting to become a confident and interesting character saying cool things. This is their first proper moment together, right? I look forward to many more.

Also, B.D. Wong is crushing it as Doctor Strange. He's so delightfully creepy and man what a perfect look!
 
It looks like the vision portion of the healthcare plan for Arkham employees only covers eyeglasses exactly one size too small for each individual, based on Strange and his female associate.
 
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