Morena is going to be in the Deadpool movie so I have to wonder about her future on the show. Leslie does have more chemistry with Gordon than Barbara appeared to, I saw appeared to since really Gordon shut her out his life and relented when it came to Leslie. But even if Barbara come back into Gordon's life they're going to have the same problem.
Gotham - Season 1
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Barbara is going to "try" to bed Harvey.
Barbara is going to "try" to bed Harvey.
I just want to go on record as saying that Leslie reminds me of one of my ex's who later admitted she had borderline personality disorder.
Go back and check out the scenes were Jim is taken aback by her inappropriate behaviour, and then proceeds to follow the advice of his other head. It happened to me. Don't let it happen to you.
Go back and check out the scenes were Jim is taken aback by her inappropriate behaviour, and then proceeds to follow the advice of his other head. It happened to me. Don't let it happen to you.
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All women are crazy if you give them enough rope.
Thanks for confirming that, Christopher. Also, there was a time (perhaps prior to Nu52) where Alfred and Leslie were getting close, right?
Talking about Jim's loves, I think he's going to get some promotions within the police and soon, Sarah Essen will be reporting to her and then they'll be doing their extra-marital hijinks from the comics, I guess. (I think they were extra-marital things. I remember some storyline where Jim Gordon was pretty conflicted about it all.... But still gets involved anyway).
I wonder whether with his promotion, his relationship with Harvey also changes. Right now they're partners.
Also - have we seen the Commisioner? I think Sarah Essen is Captain. The Mayor is that guy from the Michael Fox show... Think they have mentioned a Commissioner Loeb or am I imagining it from the comics?
Thanks for the reminder on Black Mask. I had seen the episode but completely forgotten about it now. Also, Dollmaker is another Grant Morrison invention? (Or did he rehabilitate an old enemy in the Dollmaker?). You are right that we haven't really been given a clear indication re it being Professor Pyg. Regarding the Electrocutioner, I don't think I've come across him before in Batman - To be honest, I was thinking that it was Hugo Strange (cos of the glasses) but they didn't give him the Strange name.
I didn't really like the Joker too much. The guys smile reminded me a little too much of Jack Nicholson. And I always had a slight reservation against Jack Nicholson's characterization of the Joker. It is way too narcissistic - making it more of a one-note Joker. I want Joker to be more multi-nefarious. While the Joker has the narcissism too, but somehow Jack's interpretation never sat right with me. Anyways...
I am also curious about Riddler and Ms. Klass (sp?). I don't really know about her from the comics. With Leslie now as the ME, I hope she doesn't interfere too much with Riddler's rule on the CSI-side of Gotham's finest.
Also I am hoping to see Lady Shiva too. And Zatanna of course. I am not too sure about Tommy Elliot/Hush tho'.
I also want to see Bruce evolve his "Bruce Wayne - rich playboy wastrel" persona...
And I am not too sure that I want to know who killed Thomas and Martha.
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Hm. In the "These are the Voyages" books, they talk about how the TOS day players - Koenig, Nichols and Takei - were contracted for 7 out of 13 episodes. And their names were always in the closing credits. So I'd guess the rule applied in the 60s too.
Peter Scolari has appeared as Commissioner Loeb, in the episode where Gordon got his job back after Arkham. He'll be seen again in the March 2 episode.
The problem is, Jack Nicholson didn't play the Joker. He played Jack Nicholson in whiteface. Most good Joker actors totally embrace the persona and change themselves almost unrecognizably from their usual personalities -- Cesar Romero, Mark Hamill, Heath Ledger, even Kevin Michael Richardson in The Batman. But Nicholson's version of the Joker was expressly written to be Jack Nicholson. They even called him Jack Napier. And Jack Napier's personality after his transformation was hardly any different from what it was before. He was only superficially the Joker. But then again, Michael Keaton's character was only superficially Batman.
If you mean Kristen Kringle, the records clerk that Ed is infatuated with, she doesn't seem to be a pre-existing comics character. Apparently she's an original Ben Edlund creation for the show (at least, he wrote the first two episodes she was in).
You fear it would put too much of a Chill on the show's story arc?
Actually, no; the closing credits only listed those actors who actually appeared in the episode. For instance, George Takei's name doesn't appear in the "Trouble with Tribbles" credits, and Nichelle Nichols's name isn't in the "Wolf in the Fold" credits (to name just two examples).
Besides, a series regular is someone who's billed in the opening credits. Like the 13 Gotham actors who get listed at the top of every episode even when they don't appear for weeks on end.
"Always" was the wrong word to use there without specificity.
I meant to say their names were always in the closing credits in the episodes they appeared in. What I meant was clear inside MY head anyway. 
^But everyone's name is in the credits of the episodes they appear in (unless they're extras or voice artists, or choose to waive credit), so why is that significant?
It costs money to change the credits.
Gotham was supposed to have a 16 episode first season.
The Network surprised them with an extra 6 episodes.
Which would have messed with there projections and contracts if some were only staying on for x number of episodes rather than a full season, and might be why they pulled Leslie Tompkins out of their ass after hiatus.
Gotham was supposed to have a 16 episode first season.
The Network surprised them with an extra 6 episodes.
Which would have messed with there projections and contracts if some were only staying on for x number of episodes rather than a full season, and might be why they pulled Leslie Tompkins out of their ass after hiatus.
I read this fairly often about Nicholson's performance. But prior to Joker, I don't recall Nicholson playing any characters like that. Randall P. McMurphy was a character who had little outbursts, but they weren't Joker-like outursts. "Jack" Torrence was (eventually) full of rage and yelled a lot, but was hardly the maniacle Joker. Both had elements of the Joker characterization but to say that Jack was just playing Jack is a stretch.
I think that because Jack's personality is so huge and, since he played Joker, well known, that people simply confuse Jack with the Joker character. I can tell you that back in 1989, there had not been a performance of Joker or any other comic book villain, like Nicholson's.
Now, Mark Hamil and, especially, Heath Ledger's performances were very good, but that doesn't lessen Nicholson's (at the time), revolutionary portrayal of the character.
BTW, Caeser Romero's performance was ridiculous. It was nothing but a bunch of hoarse cackling, and mustache twirling foolishness, however distant the characterization may have been from his own personality.
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Meh. I don't really see the point of doing the character on a show without superpowers. I guess she could just be a stage magician, but it would be a lot more fun if she could actually have real magic.
The Wikipedia article on Constantine said that one of the producers said they wanted to do her in one of the later episode they never got. Now that I could see working, especially since they are or were together in JLD. Is she even that connected to Batman?
I think that Zatanna's main connection to Batman comes from Paul Dini's work on TV and comics, wherein he often paired them off.
The point of a Stage Magician faking stage magic with real magic is that if he never actually says that he is using real magic, any onlookers will think that he's using stage magic.
Looks like the Reanimator is up to his old tricks. Getting a little long in the tooth but always welcome.
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