It was a nice moment when Captain Essen backed up Gordon and things are slowly starting to turn in Gordon's favor at the GCPD.
Gotham - Season 1
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I don't think Bruce sees her in that way sort of way.
a) he's concerned for her becasue of the street life she lives and b) she's the only witness to the murder of his parents so he needs her to indentify the killer.
Bruce doesn't understand his feelings, or the consequences of expressing those feelings to a woman who might understand what is going on inside him a little better than he does.
1. He wants to rescue her from squalor.
2. He wants to look after her in privilege.
What Bruce didn't understand was that what he was asking Selena was to own the girl and have power over her, extracting any sense of freedom or self-reliance. He was also calling her a useless, deadbeat, fuckup, accident because she can't look after herself. If Master Wayne wasn't asking this Urchin to be her boyfriend, which he didn't think he was doing, Bruce was certainly asking to be her father, which is ridiculous. He is a boy, and other than his bank account, he is Selena Kyles' inferior in almost every conceivable way (Botboy is 12, and she's 15? If I caught a 15 year old trying to #### my 12 year old, I'd break their arm. Okay, maybe I wouldn't, but I'd want to.). She was there to save him. She was the hero larger than life who he looks up to like a god, not the other way around. How dare he! How dare he reverse their archetypal roles she was happy with with no warning!
Also only punks sit in the bitchseat.
Cat is not a weak princess who needs saving and how dare he see her as a princess. #### him.
Which is when we see how immature she is, more mature than Bruce but still a child, that she couldn't graciously let him down, because how he made her feel is not how he wanted to to make her feel, in fact the opposite. He wanted to make her feel good, and he should get points for that, even if he did make her feel awful. "Thank you, but no thank you" is the correct response. The correct response to being offered a golden fricking ticket is not to create a situation where a 12 year old boy is going to cry himself to sleep for the next 5 years.
And if in later life Billionaire Bruce Wayne continues to associate the detonation of an emotional A-Bomb in his face with arousal, it only certainly means that he will probably be a pervert making unsafe choices in who his sexual partners are going to be.
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Barbara Kean wants to be looked after.
She is a pet searching for a new mistress or master.
Barbara Kean is not Selena Kyle.
1. He wants to rescue her from squalor.
2. He wants to look after her in privilege.
What Bruce didn't understand was that what he was asking Selena was to own the girl and have power over her, extracting any sense of freedom or self-reliance. He was also calling her a useless, deadbeat, fuckup, accident because she can't look after herself. If Master Wayne wasn't asking this Urchin to be her boyfriend, which he didn't think he was doing, Bruce was certainly asking to be her father, which is ridiculous. He is a boy, and other than his bank account, he is Selena Kyles' inferior in almost every conceivable way (Botboy is 12, and she's 15? If I caught a 15 year old trying to #### my 12 year old, I'd break their arm. Okay, maybe I wouldn't, but I'd want to.). She was there to save him. She was the hero larger than life who he looks up to like a god, not the other way around. How dare he! How dare he reverse their archetypal roles she was happy with with no warning!
Also only punks sit in the bitchseat.
Cat is not a weak princess who needs saving and how dare he see her as a princess. #### him.
Which is when we see how immature she is, more mature than Bruce but still a child, that she couldn't graciously let him down, because how he made her feel is not how he wanted to to make her feel, in fact the opposite. He wanted to make her feel good, and he should get points for that, even if he did make her feel awful. "Thank you, but no thank you" is the correct response. The correct response to being offered a golden fricking ticket is not to create a situation where a 12 year old boy is going to cry himself to sleep for the next 5 years.
And if in later life Billionaire Bruce Wayne continues to associate the detonation of an emotional A-Bomb in his face with arousal, it only certainly means that he will probably be a pervert making unsafe choices in who his sexual partners are going to be.
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Barbara Kean wants to be looked after.
She is a pet searching for a new mistress or master.
Barbara Kean is not Selena Kyle.
Hell, I'm 57 and I'm still not completely over a couple of those first girls I crushed on.
Agreed.
My wife, son, and I all watch together. All three of us were saying "FINALLY!"
So what is going to happen with Nygma and this woman? Is she supposed to be somebody we know?
I totally disagree. Those are awkward reasons he came up with in conversation because he's a young kid and like all of us at that age he couldn't bring himself to blurt out that he likes her. Same with Selena, the reason she left wasn't because she was lying about seeing the murderer, it was because she felt anxiety and hurt when Bruce implied there was something wrong with her life. She interpreted it as Bruce was feeling sorry for her, not seeing her as an equal, and that shattered her feelings for him.
In the comics they are married, so I wonder if Billy Idol will play at their wedding half way through season 3?
And he has kind of a crush on her.
I mean, this is Bruce and Selina, remember? That they're attracted to each other is built into the mythos. And she keeps teasing him about kissing her . . . .
Granted, it's more puppy love than smoldering sexual tension at this age, but the show knows that the audiences knows that there's always been a romantic aspect to the Bruce/Selina dynamic. We're just seeing the early, junior-high version here.
My question is, which of Selina's stories was the lie? Did she just pretend to see the guy's face so that she could get out of being shipped to juvie, like she said, or is she now pretending she didn't see his face because she's afraid to testify?
It seems to me, though, that it was no accident on the writers' part that when Selina claimed she hadn't seen the Waynes' killer, she told Bruce to "Chill." But were they just making an in-joke for the viewers, or was Selina deliberately sending Bruce a message?
It seems to me, though, that it was no accident on the writers' part that when Selina claimed she hadn't seen the Waynes' killer, she told Bruce to "Chill." But were they just making an in-joke for the viewers, or was Selina deliberately sending Bruce a message?
Bruce was trying to get too uncomfortably close.
It was textbook that she pushed him away like she did.
Didn't matter that she lied to push him away.
It's what kids do, actually it's what cats do, they pretend that they are larger than they are to scare off predators.
It was textbook that she pushed him away like she did.
Didn't matter that she lied to push him away.
It's what kids do, actually it's what cats do, they pretend that they are larger than they are to scare off predators.
I actually expected Gordon to fail. It just seemed too early for him to rally the good cops against the corrupt cops. But the scene at the end seems to show he might gotten more than he bargained for.
What I still don't understand, is how Penguin is going to run Fish's business without becoming a target of Maroni? I guess they'll address it later.
What I still don't understand, is how Penguin is going to run Fish's business without becoming a target of Maroni? I guess they'll address it later.
What about "Bob", (guy torturing Fish,) possibly Jokers #1 Goon?
^It's "Bob." Not exactly a rare name. It's really grasping to draw a connection there.
You would have wonder how frakkin naive Gordon is if he didn't think that some sort of force and coercion would be used to get what he needed.
I mean jeez Jimbo did you really have to go and give the Penguin something he could hang over you? Sure it there was a debt for not capping him but now the Pengiun has blackmail material.
Keep a low profile, no step on any toes and make sure he's got good security.
Oh and Butch seems to be a rareity - an enforcer who's really loyal to his mob boss.
Bob is going to die after Penguin sees him kissing his mother.
Carol worked with Danny on TAXI for years.
She is clearly the go between to use if either of these penguins wanted to meet each other in real life for a friendly hello.
Actually, Carol Kane can possibly have a word to the actress playing Christine Kringle about the terrors and pitfalls of living with a Christmas themed name all year around.
Carol worked with Danny on TAXI for years.
She is clearly the go between to use if either of these penguins wanted to meet each other in real life for a friendly hello.
Actually, Carol Kane can possibly have a word to the actress playing Christine Kringle about the terrors and pitfalls of living with a Christmas themed name all year around.
Some stuff about Bruce being sheltered that I deleted and I'm too lazy to go back and re-do all the multi-quotes. Sorry, Dude.
Would it be too much to hope that we'll get either of the Waynes in a flashback at some point?
Agreed. Batman should not fall for such nonsense.
I think pretty much anything she says has a mix of lie/truth that she changes on the spot to protect herself. I'd say all of it was a lie and all of it was the truth.
Ain't it just like a man, though? Kiss him once and suddenly he's talking about moving in together. Oy.
i actually like that...it makes him human..and he ain't Batman -- YET!
We know from the pilot that she DID see the killer...she's just trying to protect herself emotionally.
This is an area Bruce has little experience in...i actually LIKE this vulnerability, and nterested to see how he grows from it.
Some stuff about Bruce being sheltered that I deleted and I'm too lazy to go back and re-do all the multi-quotes. Sorry, Dude.
How much peyote did I smoke last night?
I have no recollection of typing that.
No, I'm really surprised that Alfred fell for it.
I took a screenshot, if that helps. 
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