Gotham - Season 1

[Guy Gardener]

How about she turns Edward down and marries a passing billionaire?

Nigma feels compelled to level the playing field by fleecing her new husband, sending him to the poor house, and wait for Christine to go back on the market now that her rich catch is trying to move the both of them, man and wife to the poor house?

 

[Nerys Myk]

The Riddler is about being the smartest guy in the room. His crimes are motivated by outwitting Batman.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Were you reading when Edward figured out that Bruce Wayne was Batman?

That #### was hilarious.

Okay, what if Christine is evil, and whatever caper she is trying to bring about, either she enlists Edward, or after she does her business, he tries really hard not to catch her. Even if Eddie had nothing to do with the original crime, tampering with evidence to save his notGirlfriend from a guest spot on Orange is the New Black is going to get Nigma kicked off the police force (He's a lab tech, so not actually a member of the police force, just a consultant. Barry Allen in the comics is a police officer and a lab tech, or at least he used to be, but Barry in the new TV show is a consultant like Eddie... Nigma and Allen have the same Job? If not for the time schism they would get drunk at the same conventions trawling for the same hotel floozy barflies who are almost certainly not prostitutes.).

Christine is not a person.

I am not dehumanizing her.

She is a device, an engine necessary to the propulsion of the Riddler's new origin.

Are the other Female Character there in their own right, or are they too just hard flavours to make the men more interesting?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Pretty sure Barry and Eddie work as forensic scientists for their respective Police Departments and are not consultants. They have offices/desks and badges.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Maybe I probably used the wrong word?

They work for the police, not as the police. But yes permanent staff would not be called consultants. Although I highly doubt that they are actual policemen, even though if Barry or Eddie did spend a year at the Police Academy and graduate, their salary would probably quadruple since they would then be highly qualified policemen with the Union standing right behind them.

Have Eddie and Barry graduated the Police Academy and are they allowed to carry guns without a civilian permit (like Bones had to go to the trouble of getting)?

Are you sure they have badges?

I imagine these two having Laminates like Dexter.

Civilian experts who work for the police force are common place these days. The budget people don't want to waste manpower with badges on grunt work (like filing in the case of Christine) or the highly specialized squint work (like a lab tech or a medical examiner) manpower with badges does not exist.

Doctorlawyercop: Best sitcom ever!

 

[Nerys Myk]

IIRC some forensic/CSI/SID types do have badges. Heck, police dogs are LEOs and if you hurt one it's assaulting an officer

 

[Guy Gardener]

Police dogs have to graduate the police dog academy. They are police officers in their own right, with their own system of ranks that denote experience and trustworthiness.

Not all badges are created equal.

Off thing I noticed on Bad Judge, you know how lawyers (Ally McBeal constantly) keep saying "I am an officer of the court" ...Well, I'd always through that that was a figurative fraternity, but one of the public defenders actually tried flashing his (lawyer) badge to get past a police lock down because he was all claustrophobic.

Firemen have badges and so do pest control.

Badges are handed out inconsistently by City hall to explain how it's civil servants serve the city.

The police work for city hall, and are paid for by city hall.

Now I want to say independent contractors, but I still don't think that's right either.

Hmmm?

Is Ducky a fully qualified NCIS Agent? We saw young Ducky a few weeks back and he was seriously Bond.

...

Christine is supposed to be an awkardly unattractive, unconfidentent, bookworm men ignore becuase her body doesn't seem like a wonderland?

"Men don't make passes at girls with thick glasses."

Maybe it's because of the 70s-vision that the men in that office, except Nigma, have that they can't see what a stone cold fox she is, or is she in disguise! This is me still trying to prove that she is Jingle Belle and up to some no goodnikness.

 

[Mach5]

So even if Butch is going to be the Joker one day,

...he'd have to lose about 125 pounds.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What about this guy?

Caesar Romero was 6 foot two and built like and brick outhouse.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Not all badges are created equal.

Still a badge. And in the case of guys like Eddie or Barry, one related to police work.

Off thing I noticed on Bad Judge, you know how lawyers (Ally McBeal constantly) keep saying "I am an officer of the court" ...Well, I'd always through that that was a figurative fraternity, but one of the public defenders actually tried flashing his (lawyer) badge to get past a police lock down because he was all claustrophobic.

A public defender works for the government. That's why he has a badge. I don't think Matlock has one, but he's still an officer of the court.

Now I want to say independent contractors, but I still don't think that's right either.

You were right when you said Civil Servant

Eddie and Barry work for the government.

Is Ducky a fully qualified NCIS Agent? We saw young Ducky a few weeks back and he was seriously Bond.

You may have seen Ducky, but I sure didn't.

 

[Christopher]

Young Ducky wasn't Bond, he was Illya Kuryakin.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In the recent episode So It Goes Young Ducky was played by Adam Campbell.


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0968405/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ducky will always be Jon Cryer

 

[Guy Gardener]

This is interesting...

As we recently reported, "Pretty In Pink" star Molly Ringwald says that Jon Cryer's character in the film, Duckie, was gay. "Duckie [played by Jon Cryer] doesn't know he's gay. I think he loves Andie in the way that [my gay best friend] always loved me," "The Secret Life of the American Teenager" star tells Out.com.

"Yes, she said that the guy whom Duckie was based on was gay. It's a different thing. Let's be clear here," "Two and a Half Men" star Cryer tells Zap2it. "No, she actually said that if one projected beyond the movie, that Duckie would be out by now. And I respectfully disagree. I want to stand up for all the slightly effeminate dorks that are actually heterosexual. Just cause the gaydar is going off, doesn't mean your instruments aren't faulty. I've had to live with that, and that's okay."

We also asked Cryer about Molly Ringwald tweeting she was Team James Spader. "I tweeted her back," he says. "It's funny actually. I mean, come on! We're both on Twitter, something's got to happen there. But no, she assured me privately via Twitter," he laughs, "that she was truly into Duckie. She said that instead of being Team Duckie or Team Blaine, she was actually Team Spader. I think we're all team Jimmy Spader at this point. I don't blame her."

Above is from 2012 before The Black List, but then, Boston legal was nothing to sneeze at either.

Jon, 5 years Spader's junior, has stood up to time a lot better than James.

Time is kicking his ass.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I look more like an older James Spader than the actual older James Spader.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What are the chances of Ed's dad showing up played by Jim Carey?

John Astin, from the 60s series, is still working according to wikipedia.

Jim Carey shows up as Earnest Nigma, to get help from Edward Nigma to drag Earl Nigma into a retirement home played by John Astin, and they all keep beginning every sentence with "Ridel me this!" ad infinitum.

A Ridler for every generation?

 

[Forbin]

And John Astin keeps saying "I'm feeling MUCH better now."


(Night Court reference - he was Harry's crazy father)

 

[CorporalClegg]

I look more like an older James Spader than the actual older James Spader.

These days older James Spader looks like older Peter Gabriel, who also doesn't look anything like older Peter Gabriel.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Colm Feore To Play The Dollmaker

 

[Guy Gardener]

Same Guy?

They are in separate universes, so the same characters are going to be reused eventually.