That's a nice idea and I don't get why Facebook doesn't implement this.
I don't want my family to see all the stuff my friends can see.
That's a nice idea and I don't get why Facebook doesn't implement this.
I don't want my family to see all the stuff my friends can see.
LOL, does anyone of you really want to let Google know everything about you? Your emails, your searches, your locations, your documents, your schedules, your phone...
Ha, I forgot to add the social networking part in that list.
With that added, Google has the PERFECT profile of you. Full name, photographs, hobbies, friends, workplace, date of birth, and all that other shit you put up on these social networking sites. Plus the acquired data of your searches, your webmail, your schedules, the youtube videos you watch and upload, the documents you share on GoogleDocs, the news you're interested in, the recent Google Earth searches you made, the GPS data of your Android phone, etc... EVERYTHING.
One of the perks of having "New Media" in my job title means that I get paid to play with things like this.
It's definitely interesting and I can see the benefits, but I'll be interested to see its rate of adoption among the non-technorati.
Given the bomb that SEOMoz dropped last week (that the major search engines, especially Google, are now returning search results based on social influence and the user's social networks), I'm going to be very interested in how this affects search moving forward. Social and search have been on the road to convergence for a while, but now it seems to be reaching critical mass.
At any rate, Google+ (not +1, that's their "Like" button for search results) is far better than any of Google's prior attempts at social, which have ranged from laughable to outright abortions. At least this actually works.
This is a pretty short-sighted view. In 2004, sites like Friendster and MySpace owned the social networking universe, and look where they are now -- MySpace was originally bought for $580 million in 2005, and was just sold for $35 million yesterday. Hotmail used to own Web-based email. Yahoo! used to own search. Yes, Facebook has a ~$70 billion valuation right now, but it's impossible -- and foolish -- to say, "Welp, game over." Remember, Apple partnered with Twitter, not Facebook, for iOS 5 (although that's primarily due to diametrically opposing viewpoints on content more than anything else). Things change.
There was an April Fools' joke that circulated around the Internet in 2008 to that end (Microsoft buys Yahoo, Google buys Facebook), and there were rumors that Google was looking at a purchase back in 2006 (for only $2.3 billion, back then), but nowadays, that would be one incredibly expensive acquisition -- Google's got about $36 billion in cash on hand, with a market cap of around $160 billion, while Facebook is moving full speed ahead towards an IPO that will almost certainly top $100 billion. In terms of strategic planning, that would be an incredibly poor move today -- which is why we now have Google+. Far cheaper to launch an internally developed alternative that doesn't suck rather than try to buy a company that would wipe out almost all of your own corporation's cash and stock value.
It's definitely interesting and I can see the benefits, but I'll be interested to see its rate of adoption among the non-technorati.
Given the bomb that SEOMoz dropped last week (that the major search engines, especially Google, are now returning search results based on social influence and the user's social networks), I'm going to be very interested in how this affects search moving forward. Social and search have been on the road to convergence for a while, but now it seems to be reaching critical mass.
At any rate, Google+ (not +1, that's their "Like" button for search results) is far better than any of Google's prior attempts at social, which have ranged from laughable to outright abortions. At least this actually works.
This is a pretty short-sighted view. In 2004, sites like Friendster and MySpace owned the social networking universe, and look where they are now -- MySpace was originally bought for $580 million in 2005, and was just sold for $35 million yesterday. Hotmail used to own Web-based email. Yahoo! used to own search. Yes, Facebook has a ~$70 billion valuation right now, but it's impossible -- and foolish -- to say, "Welp, game over." Remember, Apple partnered with Twitter, not Facebook, for iOS 5 (although that's primarily due to diametrically opposing viewpoints on content more than anything else). Things change.
There was an April Fools' joke that circulated around the Internet in 2008 to that end (Microsoft buys Yahoo, Google buys Facebook), and there were rumors that Google was looking at a purchase back in 2006 (for only $2.3 billion, back then), but nowadays, that would be one incredibly expensive acquisition -- Google's got about $36 billion in cash on hand, with a market cap of around $160 billion, while Facebook is moving full speed ahead towards an IPO that will almost certainly top $100 billion. In terms of strategic planning, that would be an incredibly poor move today -- which is why we now have Google+. Far cheaper to launch an internally developed alternative that doesn't suck rather than try to buy a company that would wipe out almost all of your own corporation's cash and stock value.
Ha, I forgot to add the social networking part in that list.
With that added, Google has the PERFECT profile of you. Full name, photographs, hobbies, friends, workplace, date of birth, and all that other shit you put up on these social networking sites. Plus the acquired data of your searches, your webmail, your schedules, the youtube videos you watch and upload, the documents you share on GoogleDocs, the news you're interested in, the recent Google Earth searches you made, the GPS data of your Android phone, etc... EVERYTHING.
So, after a sufficient amount of data input, we have LITERALLY downloaded our personalities into Google! I think we're on to something!
And then they'll sell that info to the Knights Templar... or the Illuminati.
Right?
*sigh*
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Jetfire
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Thought it already did.
Ha, I forgot to add the social networking part in that list.
With that added, Google has the PERFECT profile of you. Full name, photographs, hobbies, friends, workplace, date of birth, and all that other shit you put up on these social networking sites. Plus the acquired data of your searches, your webmail, your schedules, the youtube videos you watch and upload, the documents you share on GoogleDocs, the news you're interested in, the recent Google Earth searches you made, the GPS data of your Android phone, etc... EVERYTHING.
So, after a sufficient amount of data input, we have LITERALLY downloaded our personalities into Google! I think we're on to something!
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Stone_Cold_Sisko
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That's a nice idea and I don't get why Facebook doesn't implement this.
I don't want my family to see all the stuff my friends can see.
Haha, looks like Facebook asked themselves the same question. FB Engineers just copied "Circles"
http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/01/facebook-circles/
It's open now, just go to www.google.com/+ and log in.Could someone send me an invite?
I've been on the waitlist, but never got one from Google.
It's open now, just go to www.google.com/+ and log in.Could someone send me an invite?
I've been on the waitlist, but never got one from Google.
Cool, thanks.
And thanks, Google, for letting me know...
Edit: "We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon" Grrr.
That's a nice idea and I don't get why Facebook doesn't implement this.
I don't want my family to see all the stuff my friends can see.
Haha, looks like Facebook asked themselves the same question. FB Engineers just copied "Circles"
http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/01/facebook-circles/
Even if Google+ fails, it seems it will have an impact. The idea of the circles is a really good one. A few weeks ago, one of my friends posted to another about a vegan blog one of his friends had created. I saw it and thought I'd post to three vegetarian friends since the blog had some good recipes. I went through the whole Facebook post options for selecting on specific recipients, clicked on the three names and posted, thinking only they would see it (not because I didn't want others to see it, but simply because it applied to them and I thought my other friends wouldn't be interested).
To my surprise, the next day, my mother (who was not one of the three people who I had selected to see the post) commented on my post.
Facebook has mentioned how they want to supplant e-mail, but without a simple and effective manner of selecting only a few people to see certain posts (such as with the "Circles" idea), it'll never overtake e-mail.
That's a nice idea and I don't get why Facebook doesn't implement this.
I don't want my family to see all the stuff my friends can see.
Haha, looks like Facebook asked themselves the same question. FB Engineers just copied "Circles"
http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/01/facebook-circles/
Even if Google+ fails, it seems it will have an impact. The idea of the circles is a really good one. A few weeks ago, one of my friends posted to another about a vegan blog one of his friends had created. I saw it and thought I'd post to three vegetarian friends since the blog had some good recipes. I went through the whole Facebook post options for selecting on specific recipients, clicked on the three names and posted, thinking only they would see it (not because I didn't want others to see it, but simply because it applied to them and I thought my other friends wouldn't be interested).
To my surprise, the next day, my mother (who was not one of the three people who I had selected to see the post) commented on my post.
Facebook has mentioned how they want to supplant e-mail, but without a simple and effective manner of selecting only a few people to see certain posts (such as with the "Circles" idea), it'll never overtake e-mail.
You could have sent these three people a message, not post on their wall.
Wave sucked, Buzz sucked, this'll suck.
Actually, I hope Google gets social networking right, for once. Facebook could use the competition.
Eh any serious competition to Facebook sounds to me like people will start needed two accounts to deal w/ different sets of friends. That sounds annoying! Anyway. Google plus seems a lot more like a Skype/AIM/G-Chat alternative than it does true social network--- and it appears geared toward more tight-knit, smaller subgroups of close friends you would say, video-chat with.
Ditto. However unfortunately the business world is starting to embrace facebook over linkedin as a way to reach out to customers and potential customers so my self imposed ban on facebook may be coming to a forced end.
Not really. It certainly has that functionality but it also has all the functionality you expect from a social network. Most of the people I'm following and are following me are people I don't know personally who work in my industry, much like my Twitter account. Because they're in a circle away from my friends who I do know, I can share stuff with them publicly if I want or share stuff just with people I know all in the same space. Because you can easily switch between these contexts, it can act as both functions.
I got an invite and signed up today. So far I like the way that circles are set up. It really does make it easier to control who sees what on your profile and in your posts. I really appreciate that because it is one reason that I don't post much on Facebook. I will think of something funny or interesting to post, but then I think, "Would I want my grandma to read this?" and almost always decide against posting it. 
This way I can truly post whatever I want and ensure that people from work or my family aren't seeing things I'd rather they didn't.
Of course, the sucky part right now is that there are so few people using it. I only have two friends with profiles so far. I invited some more people so we'll see what happens. I hope it sticks around long enough for it to really grow.
This way I can truly post whatever I want and ensure that people from work or my family aren't seeing things I'd rather they didn't.Of course, the sucky part right now is that there are so few people using it. I only have two friends with profiles so far. I invited some more people so we'll see what happens. I hope it sticks around long enough for it to really grow.
Exactly
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