Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by HaventGotALife, Mar 18, 2013.
Well, I have never been a fan of traditional country music. I grew up in the era you describe as watered-down country. I think cuing up some steel guitar doesn't make it good music. I prefer the songwriting of today. I think the music was at its apex about 5 years ago. 2008 was a great year for music. Zac Brown Band, Jamey Johnson, Jason Aldean, and Lady Antebellum were all new. Sugarland, Carrie Underwood, George Strait, Kenny Chesney all had new music. The artists are so varied. It was a great year and one I will always treasure.
And in ten or twenty years someone will be defending Taylor Swift to you with the same argument.
My main point is that every generation of music, including country music, thinks the new stuff tended to "ruin" the "real" stuff. Hence my mentioning it as irony.
There is also the inherent fact that rock music is ultimately a blend of country and blues created by a kid named Elvis (along with a few others). Since the rock genre is a hybrid, the line between rock and country (and rock and blues for that matter) is often blurred and will always be blurred.
I, personally, think Brooks and Swift tended to land more on the pop or rock side. That doesn't make them bad. It just makes them less "country" as a genre than stuff that harkens back to the old (sometimes pre-rock) days.
Also, it reminds me of an article I read recently (wish I could remember where), in which the author said that there is actual country being played on the radio. However, it's being put out, not by "country" artists, but by bands like Mumford and Sons, the Head and the Heart, the Lumineers and other so-called "alternative" acts.
I enjoy bluegrass when mixed with country. I like what rap has done to the genre, not necessarily the synthetic beats (like with Swift) but the repetitive beats with organic instruments. Check out Sugarland's Love on the Inside album to hear some of it. It's like bluegrass, hoedown, and rock with R&B beats. It's amazing. It sounds like a whole feast for the ears. Love on the Inside has a song "Take me as I am" that is as rock as country gets. I would argue that The Incredible Machine was a rock-anthem album, not purely country.
I miss the storytelling. It really has been lacking in the last 3-4 years. Unless I want to hear about Jesus Christ, there's not much in the way of telling a story anymore.
What do I mean? Listen to Sugarland's Already Gone on my list and 22 by Taylor Swift. One uses a chorus that works over two, three verses and changes meanings, where Swift is simply talking about being 22 to a general audience.
Some of the music I grew up on was pop country, Shania Twain, for instance, and it hasn't aged well. It sounds synthetic, her singing is not at all good, and I don't listen to much of it anymore. Brooks' music has aged well, whether you think he's country or not, I thought he was on the rock side as well. Too much of the music I grew up on was about wearing the belt buckle and the ten-gallon hat, going on stage with an accent, use a recording to play your song. It wasn't all good.
What has lasted, what I still listen includes Colin Raye, Clay Walker, Tim McGraw, John Michael Montgomery, George Strait, Dixie Chicks, Alabama, Blackhawk, Brooks and Dunn, and the aforementioned Garth Brooks. It's very heavy on the romantic love songs, but it also tells a story which Swift fails to do.
I don't think something that is old is necessarily better. I think country is a genre that mixes a lot of musical styles and is continuing to evolve.
I'm not sure why you had a hard time finding Garth Brooks on YouTube, HaventGotALife; I pull up plenty.
Of course when the subject of "country" comes up, I always have to point to folk/bluegrass, myself. Here's a few good storytelling examples...
And you might know this one better by somebody else...
Same, yeah. Since I'm in a folk/rock/punk mood though, here's two more:
That was really good.
Those are some good examples. I especially like the first one and The Civil Wars covering Michael Jackson.
I caught the Civil Wars doing the Jackson cover on ACL last week. It was good, wasn't it?
Wasn't it? Could stand to hear a little more of that!
Strangely I had only even first heard of Bonamassa a few days earlier on a morning news segment.
Having seen a short clip I had intended to check his music out more thoroughly, now I am planning on buying an album or two. I may go for a live album, as I suspect his stuff will come over better that way.
A few more of my favorites:
A classic. I've loved her from day one:
One of my favorite songs from a group I hear little from these days:
This man is amazingly talented and can do anything:
While the music in here's interesting it's sort of turned into the Good Country Music thread. so i thought i'd mix it up a bit.
because if you only listen to one electro-gothic vampire group, make it the best.
Being a DP fan, I heard about the supergroup Black Country communion first (Bonamassa, Glenn Hughes bass/vocals, Derek Sherinian (Dream Theatre) keyboard, Jason Bonham drums).
They do some great songs, but this is probably my favourite:
This. The group was innovative and have changed the sound of country music. I like "This Side" better. But whenever I think about a successful group with a mandolin and bluegrass, this is the first group that comes to mind. And this is where I think Sugarland got part of its influence. There's also some influence on Lady A.
AH yeah I have heard that band before and thought they were good, I didn't know Bonamassa was in them though. And that song you posted is fantastic, loved it.
It's record fayre day in town tomorrow, so that's going on my shopping list.
I love this song!
Excellent song. The Verve were ripped off.
Well, Kacey Musgraves introduced me to this song. She said that she is a fan of Patty Griffin and this is the first song I clicked on. I have done a lot of complaining about country music, but I think I was just looking in the wrong place.
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