Good freaking lord: the movie
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Uh-oh minds sliding shut like turbo lift doors. I better stay out of these parts until I see the movie. Don't want you guys to make me more bitter than I already am. I've already cursed all non ClassiC Trek. Can't trash this one before I've seen it. 
I don't get how people can judge a movie simply based on a few internet rumors from people claiming to be studio insiders or what not. I will admit that at first I was very skeptical but then they cast Quintro as Spock and knowing and loving his work from "Heroes" began to make me optimistic about this film. We've SEEN absolutely nothing except a teaser poster with the Starfleet logo on it and a tentative release date of Christmas 2008! How are you able to make a critical judgement from this? Everyone is indeed entitled to their own opinions...but seriously how can you formulate one from having so little information to base one on? I'm going to wait until I at least see a teaser trailer to start commenting on the movie.
The newest movie, I hope is the biggest bomb and stinker that Paramount ever gets. Serves them right to Milk this franchise. It really should have been another next gen cast, or even a deep space nine cast movie.
Although in most cases Avery Brookes is through in his acting career.
At least the Next Generation Cast could could compete for the record of the most movies that the original cast did.
I guess its not the decade for Trek...
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Whom does it actually serve? Does it serve the Trek fan who is excited to see this movie? Does it serve the people who are working hard to write, produce, direct, act, edit and help create this movie? Does it serve the memories of the actors who have since passed? Does it serve the new actors whose hopes and careers ride on the success of this movie? Just whom does it serve, and how would it serve them right to have an utter failure at the box office?
Perhaps you should consider all that would be affected before hoping for the failure of something so many people invest their lives into, particularly something that does not harm you in any way or force you to watch it.
Then I don't see Avery Brooks continuing his role as Sisko, thus making it a moot point for a DS9 movie.
Not necessarily. Brent Spiner was tired of being Data, Patrick Stewart had other interests aside from Star Trek that he wanted to pursue instead, and the rest of the cast didn't have much of a choice in the matter. As much as I like the TNG cast, their movies were only so-so. Even First Contact (I love that movie) ranks lower than most of the movies involving the TOS actors.
The point is that if you're going to give up, go ahead. It's a movie, it's not the end of your life or the end of the world. It's not worth weeping and gnashing your teeth, and it's certainly not worth hoping it will fail miserably for some type of petty revenge that will hurt far more people than it ought to do.
Just something to consider when making those statements.
J.
Kegek said:
Hey, if it's done as well as TOS could do camp and comedy, I'm game. I'd love to see something of the zany calibre of, say, "I, Mudd" on the big screen.
I'm just not expectant.
Best Episodes i thought was I-Mudd, as you get to see the zany side of the Original cast. The antics of the Enterprise cast was hillarious.
Roger Carmel was absolutely perfect for the casting of Harry Mud.
What i mean by that first statement is this is not going to be the trek we all know. In my opinion, new movie or not, Trek will live and stand the test of time as it has now for 40+ years. What paramount needed to do is to just let Trek go out with dignity, and not produce any more. Let it fade into the sunset of legend as the sci fi series is.
Nemesis ending or not, it was not a bad run and ending of the Trek films, not a stinker by any means.
In my opinion, following this series for a long time, that it was just unneccesary to rush out another "Trek" Movie so soon. I heard it was badly written and has had its share of the cut corners syndrome by Paramount bean counters in the writing department and the effects and storylines.
Perhaps... Point taken and acknowledged. I am wary of seeing a trashy Trek film, already someone said it had horrible writing and we'll have to see how this is going to be. I am not against seeing it, and noone forces me to watch it, i am just against trashy sci-fi that would lower the "Trek" Standards to all the rest of the movies.(including star trek v, and nemesis) to the level of "Buckeroo Banzai." or "Flash Gordon" (with Timothy Dalton in it. I called that comedic trashy sci-fi.
If it goes that far its not gonna fair well to the other films.
Never say never... if this next movie is a stinker, they're going to have to so something else. I think the fans should write in and see DS9 move to the silver screen. If not brookes, get someone else to play sisko... I think it would be a hell of a film and at least its something the trekkies can relate to and characters they know. Instead of unknown faces playing familiar roles. (cept shatner cameo)
I can understand Spiner, stewart wanting to pursue other things.... Sometimes actors reach an empath, (as spock would say), where they can't reach anything new with a character and make it grow any further. Stewart wanted to get back to his shakespeare, and other films. He could only say "Engage" or "Make it so" so many ways. He didn't want to be stereotyped in the role, and neither did spiner. (being data) The other cast, like Riker (frakes) wanted to get back to his writing.
They had alot against them from the get go, but all things considered they did a hell of a job. The films were not as bad as I read about them and when I saw them they were actually pretty good. They had a good story and were fairly well written (being an amateur science fiction writer myself).
I hope you are right about the new film. We'll have to see.
Who is "someone", and does their opinion matter?
Well, I would anticipate that the director, JJ Abrams, will be insisting on a level of writing at least equal to "Lost", and I enjoy the writing, and storytelling style, on that TV series week after week after week.
The three ST films I had reservations about: ST III, ST V and "Nemesis". Director Nimoy surprised me with ST III and I trusted him implicitly with ST IV. Director Shatner's ego got in the way of many aspects of ST V (thank goodness he didn't insist on directing ST VI), and Director Baird failed to thrill me with his many "I'm not knowledgeable about ST" comments, both pre- and post-"Nemesis". But I do trust Director Abrams.
J. Allen said:
Brutal Strudel said:
Warped9 said:
:thumbsup:The God Thing said:
I don't need to eat a dog turd to know that I am not going to enjoy the flavor.
TGT
Indeed. All indications are that this movie will suck more than Little Oral Annie.
What indications say that?
J.
"Auotobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Deceptecons."
And they plan to fuck with the Enterprise.
Either taken on its own is a bad sign. Taken together? My hopes have been ordered to stand down.
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Brutal Strudel said:
J. Allen said:
Brutal Strudel said:
Warped9 said:
:thumbsup:The God Thing said:
I don't need to eat a dog turd to know that I am not going to enjoy the flavor.
TGT
Indeed. All indications are that this movie will suck more than Little Oral Annie.
What indications say that?
J.
"Auotobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Deceptecons."
And they plan to fuck with the Enterprise.
Either taken on its own is a bad sign. Taken together? My hopes have been ordered to stand down.
The Trek XI movie has a teaser where the autobots take down the decepticons? As for your second point, they've been screwing around with the Enterprise for 40 years. Why start objecting now?
J.
I didn't see "Transformers" but several ST friends did - and they absolutely loved it.
Ditto Abrams' work on "Mission: Impossible 3".
You know, I heard people complain about changes made to the Enterprise, internal and external, and the SPFX, for ST:TMP, way back in 1978. Many of them changed their minds once the movie came out, and some even denied ever hating the idea of change.
So they write a movie based on a line of toys and this makes them toy writers? 
The someone is not me... I am only hearing from other fans, people who have heard word of mouth that its gonna be a shitty film. And their sources are coming from connections in hollywood (knowing people who are working on it)
I was surprised by Nimoy's film, and it was well done, and surprising. I thought the films were stunning and good work.
Trek V, well it was shatner's ego but he tried to do too much at once too. He should have started small.
I was surprised by Nimoy's film, and it was well done, and surprising. I thought the films were stunning and good work.
Trek V, well it was shatner's ego but he tried to do too much at once too. He should have started small.
and what exactly are these 'sources' saying?
I don't know anything about NathanielM's sources, but the popular underground chatter I'm hearing deals with a 24th century Romulan agent named Nero (Eric Bana) going back in time to Kirk's very first command of the Enterprise and sabotage something. Old 24th century Spock follows Nero to stop him (Remember, when we last saw Spock he was a Romulan Ambassador). Meanwhile, a newly promoted Captain Kirk is handed over command of the Enterprise from newly promoted Fleet Captain Pike and recruits a new crew of his choosing in preparation for his first new assignment as a starship Captain, diplomatic negotiations with the Klingon Empire concerning territorial disputes.
I'm taking this information with a grain of salt, as should you all. But I must admit, I find this story interesting. A Star Trek adaptation of The Terminator. Lets hope Harlan Ellison doesn't sue this time.
I'm taking this information with a grain of salt, as should you all. But I must admit, I find this story interesting. A Star Trek adaptation of The Terminator. Lets hope Harlan Ellison doesn't sue this time.
