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Gold uniforms

MagGu

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So, I don't know if this thread has already been made, but...

I was just thinking...why do security and engineering both wear gold? They are completely different things!! couldn't they have given engineers their own color? :confused:
 
I' tend to think that engineering and security are both considered parts of Starfleet's larger operations branch myself.
 
Out of universe reason, I think it dates back to the 60's when colour TV was coming in, and the three colours they used for the uniforms suited the most number of people. After all not everyone suits greens and oranges etc..

They did use a vareity of colours in the moves however for different departments.
 
It's not that engineering and security are the same, gold.

It's that command is red,
science/medical is blue,
and *everything else* is gold.
 
Well that's not really fair that the three categories are command, science and everything else! I think engineers and security should get their own colors! but then I suppose it would look even more rainbowy than it already does when they're on screen together!
 
^ MacLeod said it best. Like he pointed out, TOS uniforms had three different colors for one reason: to sell color TVs. The primary colors being green, red and blue, that's why Starfleet also used them. (And yes, I think it's green and not gold. :p )

Ever since then, subsequent Trek TV shows have used three, and only three, different colors. Not always the *same* colors, but there we are.
 
the reason the original series 'gold' appears gold is that it was actually a greenish yellowy color fabric that under the lighting and film processing turned it gold
Kirk's wraparound gives you an idea of what a similar color in a different fabric would appear in the same conditions
 
The TWOK uniforms had the right idea with the coloured shirts.

White: Command
Gold: Operations (Helm and Engineering)
Gray: Operations (Communications, Navigation and Sciences)
Light Green: Science (Medical)
Dark Green: Operations (Security)
Black: NCO and Enlisted Personnel
Red: Cadet (Trainees and Junior Officers)
 
Maybe the colour differences reflect the difference between (the future equivalents) of unrestricted line officers, restricted line officers, and staff corps officers. So perhaps, security and engineering are both considered restricted line officer departments?
 
What's also strange is that in TOS historians also wore red (again, that would be gold in TNG/DS9/VOY).
 
It's because the two departments receive similar training and are interchangable. We've seen multiple occasions where one switches between the two departments. Worf, O'Brien, Mr. Leslie. Lt. Reed also did a fair amount of engineering related tasks, and Captain Jellico was able to transfer half the Enterprise D's engineering staff to security.
 
It's because the two departments receive similar training and are interchangable. We've seen multiple occasions where one switches between the two departments. Worf, O'Brien, Mr. Leslie. Lt. Reed also did a fair amount of engineering related tasks, and Captain Jellico was able to transfer half the Enterprise D's engineering staff to security.

Is every thread going to fall into they argument? From another thread...

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-And finally, it's likely due to the fact that the training for the two departments is so similar that they both wear the same colour.

I wonder at what point in the future statics, thermodynamics and differential equations will be required for law enforcement and security training? That is going to cut back on the candidates. Not to mention the poor engineering student that cannot get past marial arts and firearms training. :guffaw:
 
There isn't a massive amount of logic but I suppose we have to remember that the majority of starfleet officers could wear command colours since they all undergo the same basic command training. I think TMP department colours made a bit more sense than TWoK (I could never see any logical reason for science and communications to share a colour or engineering and helm for that matter. At least TMP departments made more sense. If they could have just applied more logic to the uniform styles and colours I would have been happier:

Command (Captain, XO, captain's yeoman, possibly a few other positions) - white
Operations - helm, navigation, communications - yellow
Engineering - red
Security - grey
Science - orange
Medical (possibly life sciences in general) - green
Services (never seen this on anything canon just a patch for sale on ebay but nonetheless would be happy for it to exists - being catering, cleaning etc) - blue
 
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