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Going through Hell

You miss the point. If you're the one needing to make this decision and you're the one going to do the retrieval and fighting your way back out, you're the one being punished - not your mate!
 
There's two ways I can look at this.
A) Because I'm widely known as a Sarcastic Ass, I probably will be single and won't have to save anyone. No need of a rescue FTW!!! Or...
B) By most accounts, I'm going to be going to hell anyways. So bummer. Lack of a rescuer for the air ball!!!
 
I believe it was Winston Churchill who once said "If you're going through hell, keep going." I say "Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200". :bolian:
 
You and your partner have just died, you enter Heaven to find that they are not there. You go to the information desk and the angel there tells you your partner went to hell and will be spending eternity there.
You speak with God and he tells you your partner can be allowed entry into Heaven but you've got to literally leave heaven and battle your way through hell to get them and then fight your way back out in order for it to be allowed. If you are captured however you yourself will also spend eternity in hell.

So the ultimate question is:

Do you leave Heaven and go through hell and fight your way in and out to rescue your partner/lover?

I think gives my answer:

Living easy, living free
Season ticket on a one-way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Dont need reason, dont need rhyme
Aint nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too

Im on the highway to hell

No stop signs, speed limit
Nobodys gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobodys gonna mess me round
Hey satan, payed my dues
Playing in a rocking band
Hey momma, look at me
Im on my way to the promised land

Im on the highway to hell
(dont stop me)

And Im going down, all the way down
Im on the highway to hell
 
i am going around recruiting all the people in heaven who have loved ones in hell.
and that those people feel it is an unjust reason.
going to recruit some people with knowledge so we have some thing better then just swords and armour.

god may test you but it can be a test of your own knowledge , endurance ect..

like in the song and folk tale about a flood.
there was a man in a house quickly being surrounded by water.
first a big truck came along and offered to take him safety but he said no, god will provide for me.
then a rescue boat came along and the same thing happened.

finally a copter came along and he refused to stop believing god would provide for him.
well he drowned.

he went to heaven were he meet god.
he let god know how disappointed he was that in the end god didnt live up to his faith in him.

god blustered at him..
you fool...
i sent a truck, row boat and finally a copter.
what else did you expect me to do/
 
To answer the question would be to suppose these
afterlifes had some basis in reality. It is not logical.

:vulcan:


I'd goto Hell and join Satan. :D
 
I can only assume from all your responses that you're a bunch of chickens and would NEVER dare to go through hell for your loved ones which is why you're all evading the question.
I for one wouldn't give it a second thought, i'd be down to hell like a shot and start slicing those good for nothing demons into porridge.
 
Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God. For in the ressurection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven." - Matthew 22:29-30

Marriages as recognized by God, whether formalized by a court or not, end with this life. Further, my understanding of scripture on this issue says that everyone will be as brothers and sisters in heaven... you'll love everyone equally. That is not to say you'll love your former spouse less but that you, having been perfected in Christ, will love everyone else more. Perfectly, in fact.

But to answer the OP's original scenario: no, I would not leave heaven, nor do I think I'd desire to do so or be allowed to do so. I would, finally able to see it all clearly, recognize the rightness of God's justice.

OTOH, I believe theoretically that anyone admitted to heaven who was then able to leave would have the power to kick some major ass in hell. Good and evil are not two equally powerful teams battling... God and His people always win in the end.
 
You and your partner have just died, you enter Heaven to find that they are not there. You go to the information desk and the angel there tells you your partner went to hell and will be spending eternity there.
You speak with God and he tells you your partner can be allowed entry into Heaven but you've got to literally leave heaven and battle your way through hell to get them and then fight your way back out in order for it to be allowed. If you are captured however you yourself will also spend eternity in hell.

So the ultimate question is:

Do you leave Heaven and go through hell and fight your way in and out to rescue your partner/lover?

As a married man, I'm reminded of a bit by Sam Kinneson: a man dies and ends up in hell where the devil appears and gives the hell spiel. The guy says he's been married... multiple times. The devil admits they've nothing to scare him with and procedes to commiserate with the guy.
 
I think it would make quite a good movie or a decent book.

A guy dies and goes to heaven and finds out his wife went to hell due to some kind of accident she made during her life. He speaks with the angels and tells them he wants to go get her but they refuse his request telling him he cannot leave Heaven and wouldn't even make it to her anyway. As he walks away the angels are summoned by God and God tells them to allow the guy to go for his wife and to supply him with the necessary weapons and armour he'll need to give him a fighting chance. Arch Angel Gabriel gives the man his sword, the very same sword that forced Lucifer from Heaven, Arch Angel Michael makes him a set of special Armour which gives him greater strength and Arch angel Raphael give him Shield, whilst ever he holds the shield and defends with it any injurys to himself will be healed. The only way he will die is to have his head cut off.

The Angels take him to the fire cavern, the only way into Hell and send him on his journey.
He battles his way through until he reaches his wife, but Lucifer knows he has come for her and uses her as bate, as he aproaches Lucifer attacks and uses the sword of Arch Angel Gabriel to cut open his chains and get free so he can bring about the apocalypse.
He attacks the guy but he is able to get back the sword of Arch Angel Gabriel and to use the Sword to fight back. Lucifer loses and the guy manages to imprison him in his chains again . The guy then takes his wife and battles his way back out.

;)
 
minus the swordplay, that's the general plot of What Dreams May Come. His wife ended up in hell because she committed suicide.
 
Whereever my husband is, that will be heaven. Whereever my husband isn't, that place is hell.

That's very sweet, Jenee.

Thank you.

Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God. For in the ressurection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven." - Matthew 22:29-30

Marriages as recognized by God, whether formalized by a court or not, end with this life. Further, my understanding of scripture on this issue says that everyone will be as brothers and sisters in heaven... you'll love everyone equally. That is not to say you'll love your former spouse less but that you, having been perfected in Christ, will love everyone else more. Perfectly, in fact.

But to answer the OP's original scenario: no, I would not leave heaven, nor do I think I'd desire to do so or be allowed to do so. I would, finally able to see it all clearly, recognize the rightness of God's justice.

OTOH, I believe theoretically that anyone admitted to heaven who was then able to leave would have the power to kick some major ass in hell. Good and evil are not two equally powerful teams battling... God and His people always win in the end.

On yet another hand, I believe God created my husband just for me - and vice-versa. He's my soul-mate and God would never tear apart those two halves of a whole. Nor would he want a completely homogenized 'afterlife' where everyone feels exactly the same for everyone else.
 
I would fight trough Hell and back!
Swords are allowed right?..

( Graps He-Mans magica sword)
"By the power of Greyskull..."
 
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