Going back to The Cage again...
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That’s a spot on Colt lookalike there.
much of the team are here (much longer than me) - thanks for the kind words!
This looks incredible.
I've said this everywhere, but this needs to be an online thing we can experience with VR headsets at home, not just at conventions.
I'm with Tosk - I don't understand why they're doing this or who's bankrolling it, but boy, am I glad they are!
Seeing the Cage bridge (okay, but not great) turn into the familiar bridge of the series in the middle of that video had me grinning from ear to ear. What a magical set.
Seeing the Cage bridge (okay, but not great) turn into the familiar bridge of the series in the middle of that video had me grinning from ear to ear. What a magical set.
Fantastic!
I’m not quite clear what this project actually is. A “holographic recreation” of The Cage? (What does that mean, exactly? Freestanding 3D holography you can walk around in like in the movies still doesn’t exist.). A 1:1 recreation of the Enterprise? (Again, what do they mean? Something for Oculus?)
Colt’s uniform underlines the questionable choice of them eventually going with the miniskirt. The miniskirt as a female empowerment symbol in the ‘60s didn’t carry over and age well as societal perceptions changed. It’s a pity they couldn’t have come up with a better designed tunic for the women to go with the trousers.
Yes, I know one can glimpse a TOS era version of a tunic and pants version for women in the background of some early episodes, but that tunic didn’t look right.
Yes, I know one can glimpse a TOS era version of a tunic and pants version for women in the background of some early episodes, but that tunic didn’t look right.
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Same here.
From what I understood this all started with the idea (apparently abandoned) to make and sell NFTs (non fungible tokens) from Roddenberry's archives. We'll see, but honestly the things I would be most interested in are all those (still mysterious) abandoned projects and scripts. A simple scan would be enough, without 3D recration
. And also we'll have an “holographic recreation” of The Cage (whatever that means) and we still can't see the deleted scenes.
Where is this "fully explorable refit Enterprise?"
I watched this video last night and it looks amazing. It was cool to see our very own @Donny in the video as well. I must admit, though....I'm unclear on what this project actually is. What is the ultimate outcome going to be?
I too am unclear on the concept.
Also about miniskirts: Raised by a feminist mom, I saw them only as the product of male culture to make women into eye candy, not full thinking, capable human beings.
Yet Ms. Nichols and Witney referred to them as empowering.
And yes, women's "charms" have power over men.
But I'm still left wondering -- so many people are sexist to begin with, do revealing clothes not in the long run reinforce (many, not all) men's underlying attitude of women as things to be seen/had, and not full people?
Just thinking out loud here.
Grace and peace to you.
Also about miniskirts: Raised by a feminist mom, I saw them only as the product of male culture to make women into eye candy, not full thinking, capable human beings.
Yet Ms. Nichols and Witney referred to them as empowering.
And yes, women's "charms" have power over men.
But I'm still left wondering -- so many people are sexist to begin with, do revealing clothes not in the long run reinforce (many, not all) men's underlying attitude of women as things to be seen/had, and not full people?
Just thinking out loud here.
Grace and peace to you.
Nice post. Surprised both Nichols and Whitney said that.
Reminded me of Teri Garr walking off the set of "Assignment: Earth" when Roddenberry insisted her skirt be shortened...again.
I watched most of the first episode of Strange New Worlds and thought, do I really want another version of Uhura, Spock, T'Pring, Chapel.....Anson Mount is very likable, but if I try to cram another series into my brain, one of the older series will fall out.
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Isn't it! Very cool!
They mean Oculus or whatever they're using at conventions. If anyone has visited the Roddenberry Vault on Sansar or the ostensibly deleted Stage 9 Ent-D recreation or any of the Steam VR environments of the Enterprise, they know how AMAZING it is. Keeping it convention-only is such a waste.
Nice! I'm eagerly looking forward to the final result of this project.
One little thing nags at me just a bit, and that is seeing the entire assembled ship down here on Earth... I realize the ship's dedication plaque refers to "San Francisco, Calif." But if Whitfield & Roddenberry's "The Making of Star Trek" is taken at its word, the intent was that the components of the ship were built at the "San Francisco Navy Yards" and then the ship was assembled in its final configuration up in space. As the book stated, "The Enterprise is not designed to enter the atmosphere of a planet and never lands on a planet surface." So presumably, that would preclude having the whole ship assembled within Earth's atmosphere and then launched into space.
Of course that's a moot point if the ship depicted here is meant 'in-universe' to be a full-size, nonfunctional exhibit and not an actual starship. That would make sense since it's next to a 20th-century space shuttle.
There is more about the project in these links:
https://www.thetrekcollective.com/2021/08/the-roddenberry-archive-to-digitalise.html
https://home.otoy.com/roddenberryarchive/
And here is a Variety article from back in 2018 describing an early small-scale prototype from Light Field Lab, and how it's supposed to work by combining smaller projection units into larger displays, even as big as a whole wall:
https://variety.com/2018/digital/features/light-field-lab-holographic-display-demo-1203026693/
Kor
One little thing nags at me just a bit, and that is seeing the entire assembled ship down here on Earth... I realize the ship's dedication plaque refers to "San Francisco, Calif." But if Whitfield & Roddenberry's "The Making of Star Trek" is taken at its word, the intent was that the components of the ship were built at the "San Francisco Navy Yards" and then the ship was assembled in its final configuration up in space. As the book stated, "The Enterprise is not designed to enter the atmosphere of a planet and never lands on a planet surface." So presumably, that would preclude having the whole ship assembled within Earth's atmosphere and then launched into space.
Of course that's a moot point if the ship depicted here is meant 'in-universe' to be a full-size, nonfunctional exhibit and not an actual starship. That would make sense since it's next to a 20th-century space shuttle.
The project has been in the works since 2018, but it's not open to the public yet. It's going to be part of the Roddenberry Archive, wherever that may end up being constructed. The endgame is actually getting away from home VR platforms and headsets or goggles such as Oculus and instead having an immersive installation experience done with life-size holographic projections to really give you the impression that you are in the ship. To make this happen they are working with a holographic display company called Light Field Lab. This is being touted as "one of the world’s first fully immersive holographic installation experiences."
There is more about the project in these links:
https://www.thetrekcollective.com/2021/08/the-roddenberry-archive-to-digitalise.html
https://home.otoy.com/roddenberryarchive/
And here is a Variety article from back in 2018 describing an early small-scale prototype from Light Field Lab, and how it's supposed to work by combining smaller projection units into larger displays, even as big as a whole wall:
https://variety.com/2018/digital/features/light-field-lab-holographic-display-demo-1203026693/
Kor
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My thinking, and I could certainly be wrong, is that for millennia, men, as a way of keeping women down, have demonized female sexuality so that wearing a miniskirt is a way for women to say "yes, I am a sexual being and there's nothing wrong with it."
I think it's not very hard to guess what this is all about: It's the ultimate realization of what the TNG interactive technical manual, STVEF, its XP, its SB12 mod, and Stage 9 have done. Each of those kept pushing forward, and here we have the fullest version of that we've ever seen.
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