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Godzilla, Kong, Gamera & Co.: The Kaiju Mega-Thread

As I was watching String Theory, I thought it could go either way.

If senior Shaw had no recollection of his younger self having the radio "conversation," my thought was that one or both Shaws could have the capacity to change history (i.e., Young Lee possibly making contact and staying with Keiko in Axis Mundi).

If senior Shaw did remember the past as it unfolded during his chat with Young Lee, then this would just be a matter of going over the procedure with his younger self to close the loop. [/Spoiler)
 
It may not have stood up to close scrutiny, but I lovedlovedLOVED seeing Kurt and Wyatt acting "together!"
I admit that I did too. I enjoy Wyatt’s performance in general.

(That said, other than showcasing him, I don’t really see the point of the spinoff that will apparently have him countering the Soviets in the 80s. Assuming it’s previously unseen adventures that slot into what we’ve already got, I don’t see any need for it, just like the animated Stranger Things spinoff or, to be honest, the possibly-upcoming Firefly one. If time were actually getting altered so that we get Wyatt up to the present day, possibly side-by-side with Kurt until some possible passing of the torch entirely to Wyatt, that I’d be up for.)
 
(That said, other than showcasing him, I don’t really see the point of the spinoff that will apparently have him countering the Soviets in the 80s.

This is the first Ive heard of a spin-off. Off to do a google.
 
Sure. Apple sayeth—

What Apple Sayeth
Actually, couple of thoughts about that report…

1. I guess going from exactly one MonsterVerse TV show to two, with no third indicated, is still technically an “expanding slate of original series hailing from Legendary Entertainment’s Monsterverse”…

2. …although honestly I don’t really look to be brought “even closer to [my] favorite Titans”, because — at least on MLOM — none of the Titans are really characters at all. Not even Godzilla or Kong (and how very far the latter is from his 1933 iteration now!). Unlike in the films, the television-edition Titans tend to feel like gigantic walking statblocks occasionally popping up and stomping along, usually in the distance unless we need a danger scene, with our various Monarch people sort of running after them going “Wait for me!”

Sure, the kaiju have always been more Forces Of Nature than antagonists or protagonists. That’s kind of what they’re for. But that doesn’t have to make them all but interchangeable in dramatic terms, which is how it often feels on MLOM — however much the actual protagonists may talk about seeing them otherwise.

However hackneyed it sometimes (often) (usually) (whatever, I still seem to like it) gets, Lee (and Lee) and Keiko and the kids have stories; the Titans don’t. Whereas they did in the films: at least somewhat in the MonsterVerse, quite often in the various Toho eras, and very very much so in the original King Kong and its remakes.
 
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However hackneyed it sometimes (often) (usually) (whatever, I still seem to like it) gets, Lee (and Lee) and Keiko and the kids have stories; the Titans don’t.

I dunno... I think we're starting to discover that Titan X has a story, and possibly a sympathetic one.
 
Nice.
Am I missing anything here? Are there some hints on the "new threat" I didn't pick up on?

Well, I think the floating debris field that Koichi was flying through is a good indication that there's a new threat.
Edit to add.
There's some subtle differences between the Godzilla that rises from the ocean and the one standing next to the Statue of Liberty.
Two Godzilla's, or is Godzilla evolving?
 
i am still wondering how the monarch tv show is connected to the latest via resent monarch verse movies like godzilla 2 kong vs godzilla and godzilla x kong

because in the resent monarch verse movies didnt some of characters go to same place where cate and lee went like in the tv show and in the movies the characters did not return a year to many years later like the characters cate lee keiko hiro and may from the tv show did

unlese lol lol in the tv show they fixed the problems that they were having about traveling to hollow earth which explains how in the monarch verse movies they never mentioned anything from the tv shows yet
 
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Is this third party that Isabel Simmons is a part of from the movies or something new?

Presumably something created for the show, like Isabel herself.


i am still wondering how the monarch tv show is connected to the latest via resent monarch verse movies like godzilla 2 kong vs godzilla and godzilla x kong

Season 2 (set in 2017) is filling in backstory for Apex Cybernetics, the villains in Godzilla vs. Kong (released and set in 2021). They've name-dropped its boss Walter Simmons and are showing the background of Apex's development of cybernetic interfaces with Titan nervous systems, which will eventually lead to Mechagodzilla. But the show's events still happen before Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019).


because in the resent monarch verse movies didnt some of characters go to same place where cate and lee went like in the tv show and in the movies the characters did not return a year to many years later like the characters cate lee keiko hiro and may from the tv show did

The realm in the TV show, Axis Mundi, is an intermediate space between the surface world and the movies' Hollow Earth. So it looks different (like a TV-budget forest location rather than a feature-budget CGI environment) and follows different rules (like the timey-wimey stuff).


unlese lol lol in the tv show they fixed the problems that they were having about traveling to hollow earth which explains how in the monarch verse movies they never mentioned anything from the tv shows yet

The biggest continuity error between the show and the films is that the characters in the show treat the portals to Axis Mundi/Hollow Earth as a proven reality in 2015-17, even though G:KOTM depicted it as an unproven theory in 2019. Also, Kong: Skull Island established Houston Brooks as the main advocate of the Hollow Earth theory, while the TV series ignores him and makes it Billy Randa's theory.
 
Presumably something created for the show, like Isabel herself.




Season 2 (set in 2017) is filling in backstory for Apex Cybernetics, the villains in Godzilla vs. Kong (released and set in 2021). They've name-dropped its boss Walter Simmons and are showing the background of Apex's development of cybernetic interfaces with Titan nervous systems, which will eventually lead to Mechagodzilla. But the show's events still happen before Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019).




The realm in the TV show, Axis Mundi, is an intermediate space between the surface world and the movies' Hollow Earth. So it looks different (like a TV-budget forest location rather than a feature-budget CGI environment) and follows different rules (like the timey-wimey stuff).




The biggest continuity error between the show and the films is that the characters in the show treat the portals to Axis Mundi/Hollow Earth as a proven reality in 2015-17, even though G:KOTM depicted it as an unproven theory in 2019. Also, Kong: Skull Island established Houston Brooks as the main advocate of the Hollow Earth theory, while the TV series ignores him and makes it Billy Randa's theory.

which has me wonder now lol lol

what if the monarch verse movies are set in an alternate earth that almost like the one to the tv show monarch but there are some things are different from the movies
 
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