Spoilers Godzilla: King of the Monsters - Review and Discussion Thread

[thribs]

I liked Hedorah. It wasn’t the best story but the monster was truly terrifying. Didn’t mind Space Godzilla as well as I liked the character of Yuki and they gave Miki more to do. I agree the monster itself needed to be built up more as a threat. Had a good look though.

 

[thribs]

Or
Godzilla versus Hedorah (AKA Godzilla versus the Smog Monster) or most of the mid-1970s Godzilla movies.

The 70’s movies were weird. I would say Megalon was the worst there as the monster and threat weren’t really that interesting, and the fact it felt more of a Jet Jaguar movie than Godzilla. There is also the multiple reuses of footage of Godzilla vs Gigan during the fight which is very noticeable that takes you out of it.

Can we all agree that Final Wars is the most ridiculous but most entertaining though?

 

[publiusr]

Now for a crossover with Attack on Titan

 

[Noname Given]

Can we all agree that Final Wars is the most ridiculous but most entertaining though?

Final Wars is a guilty pleasure of mine. The overall story is ridiculous to the extreme and overly campy; but yeah the scene where the Japanese Godzilla tail whips the Roland Emmerich version of Godzilla with one tail strike, makes me smile.

Also the overdone American ship captain just cracks me up.

 

[thribs]

Now for a crossover with Attack on Titan

That’s already been done in Final Wars.

 

[kirk55555]

Watch All Monsters Attack and say that.

At least that movie can justify having a kid in its plot, as opposed to king of the monsters that ruined its whole movie because there was a shitty popular show on Netflix starring a kid who became a temporary obsession of some Hollywood people.

 

[thribs]

I didn’t think the kid was that bad, but she better be in prison for being complicit with her mother’s crimes.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Complicit? Seriously, she's a minor, and she's basically kidnapped by her mother. Even if Monarch revealed all the details, no way is she prosecuted.

 

[thribs]

Complicit? Seriously, she's a minor, and she's basically kidnapped by her mother. Even if Monarch revealed all the details, no way is she prosecuted.

She was old enough to know what she was doing.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Not legally. According to Wikipedia, MBB's character is 12 years old in the movie. And honestly, what was she doing? Aside from being present, she didn't do much of anything. Certainly not enough that even a mildly capable lawyer could poke holes in any case a prosecutor might bring. And again, would Monarch even reveal her part in all this to the public? No, her dad might put her in therapy, but even that would be up to him.

 

[JD]

Yeah, her mom just brought her along, she didn't actually an active role in anything they did. She apparently was aware of what their plan was based on one conversation they had, but we don't know exactly how much she knew, or when she found out. And she stole the ORCA in an attempt stop what they had set off, so that would probably go a long in countering any negative actions she might have taken.

I didn't like king of the monsters for many reasons. For example, I hated stranger things girls character and felt she was just shoehorned in because she's popular, they never should have had a kid character be the focus in the movie.

Kids have been a huge part of the franchise going back to the early movies, so really having a kid in this is just following in that tradition. Millie Bobby Brown gave a great performance, and I liked her character.

I also hated how almost every monster scene takes place where you can't see it, it's all in the dark or in a Storm or in a smoke cloud and it's bullshit done to supposedly make the CG look better for less money by hiding it and . At least the two minutes of Godzilla we got in the 2014 movie you could actually see what was going on.

Like I said in my other post, I was a little annoyed they didn't focus more on the fights, but what we did get I could see fine.

Then there was stuff like mothra's design being terrible,

I thought their Mothra design was pretty cool. It is a bit more aggressive looking than the Japanese versions usually are, but I still liked it.

the movie having a freaking human villain whose goals made no sense and who had no reason to be in the movie

. Everywhere where the monsters had shown up had seen nature take back over, and a lot of the damage we had done repaired, so Jonah's goal was to release all of the monsters at once, so that they would repair the whole planet, and send the world back to the state it was in when they were originally free. King Ghidorah just sent things out of control because it turned out he was an alien, and so once he took control, the other monsters were damaging the planet rather than repairing it.

So yeah, I found this to be the absolute worst Godzilla movie I've seen, and I've seen a bunch of them at this point. I'll take the goofy 70 shit over the u.s. stuff, which is just either too cheap or too embarrassed by the source material to actually have the monsters visibly on screen and focuses on stupid human plots instead.

Even if they weren't onscreen as much as I would have liked, the monsters were still a huge part of the movie, and I found the human story pretty enjoyable, so I was fine with it.

Bad writing, characters and CG/effects I don't find acceptable are the basic reasons I don't like the movie, not some bullshit "I hate everything" excuse that some people bitter I don't mindlessly praise some things they do like to spout

You may not hate everything, but you definitely spend way more time and energy, endlessly bitching and whining about the stuff you don't like, to the point that it pretty much drowns everything positive you do have to say.

 

[kirk55555]

the tradition of kids and Godzilla movies is kids ruining Godzilla movies, so in that respect the stranger things girl was following a tradition. I just kind of wish America hada started tradition of good Godzilla movies instead. But since the majority of Japanese Godzilla movies don't have kids in them as main cast characters, that was just some shit the US did to hop on board the stranger things train. At least when they did that with Bryan Cranston the first movie he's a decent actor, and he died pretty quickly so it's not like he was obnoxiously focused on like The Stranger Things girl

 

[JD]

I think this is just more proof that you have a very, very, very different definition of shitty than I do. You do realize it means bad, right....

 

[thribs]

I’m just joshing around. I don’t actually mean they should lick her up. Probably never see her again anyway

 

[Kai "the spy"]

She actually is going to be in Godzilla vs. Kong.

 

[JD]

Millie Bobby Brown, Kyle Chandler, and Zhang Ziyi are all coming back.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

King of the Monsters is the second best Godzilla movie ever made, after the original. That is all.



Actually, that isn't all. I don't know off the top of my head what the worst Godzilla movie is but the weirdest Godzilla experience imaginable is definitely watching Final Wars but dubbed in German with only German subtitles... (I still haven't got to see that one any other way - I mean, I read German well enough to mostly get the gist of what's happening, but it's still most assuredly an experience....)

 

[JD]

I've been meaning to mention for anybody who is interested, along with King of the Monsters, HBOMax also has all of the Showa era Japanese movies, except All Monsters Attack. I watched a minute or two of several of them to see if they were subtitled or dubbed, and some are one and some are the other. I couldn't find anywhere to pick, so I think you are stuck with whichever version they uploaded.

 

[kirk55555]

Millie Bobby Brown, Kyle Chandler, and Zhang Ziyi are all coming back.

Of course they are, because the people making these movies are completely incompetent. Hopefully it will do as badly as the first two, and just die off like the shitty but still somehow better than KotM 90s film did.