Spoilers Godzilla: King of the Monsters - Review and Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by thribs, May 29, 2019.

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  2. A

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  3. A-

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  4. B+

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  5. B

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  6. B-

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  8. C

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  1. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    A lot better than the first one. They actually used the music this time round. The humans also played a more integral point to the story and the Kaiju action wasn’t hidden with jarring cuts.
    I’m also happy that they got Godzilla himself to play him. Same with the other monsters.

    I recognised most of the Kaiju expect for that Mammoth thing. I’ll need to do some research for that one.
     
  2. JaseTheAce

    JaseTheAce Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    It knows what type of movie it is an makes no apologies about it. It doesn't have any unnecessary comedy and you can tell that the film makers wanted to make a modern kaiju movie in the vein of 90s Japanese Godzilla films. The special effects are great and it's pretty well-paced. I rated it as an A-
     
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  3. PsychoPere

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    I have zero recollection of the first movie in this new series and am starting an eight-day consecutive stretch of work tomorrow (ending with going out of town for a wedding ugh).

    However, the trailers for this one have caught my attention and I'm somewhat curious to see it.

    Would I need to have any memory of the first one going in, or would it be okay to see it "cold"? If the latter, I think I can fit it into my schedule this week for an IMAX viewing.
     
  4. JD

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    From what I've heard, it sounds like it's fairly standalone. It takes place years after the first one, and includes a mostly new cast, as far as I've heard the only returning cast is Ken Watanabe as Dr. Serizawa.
     
  5. thribs

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    The general and Serizawa’s second are also in it from the first movie.
     
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  6. mos6507

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    Um, I think you just dropped a spoiler...
     
  7. JD

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    This is the spoiler thread, so that's OK here.
     
  8. thribs

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    Could have been a new version of Barogon. I also could have mistaken the one I thought was Angurius to be him.
    The other is definitely Spiga.
    I’m also a bit confused as to why a Muto was one of the monsters under Ghidirah, and then Godzilla’s Control. Weren’t they said in the first to be parasites and dangerous around Godzilla’s?
     
  9. Starbreaker

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    Just got out of a showing. It was pretty good. Definitely better than the first, but it still suffered from having all the really cool parts in the trailer. I also didn't like how every single battle had to be in the dark. Nothing ever significant happens in the daytime.

    The monsters were fricking cool, though. I also loved seeing Godzilla's lair. I would watch the hell out of an ancient Godzilla movie.

    Hope y'all stuck around for the credits. I think Godzilla vs Kong is going to be the right of the century.

    7.5/10
     
  10. thribs

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    I noticed that as well. Maybe it's a limitation with the CGI. They can't make the monsters looks as realistic in the daytime.
    I was lucky that I didn't really see many trailers for this movie so that wasn't an issue with me.

    The Godzilla lair thing is a very new thing as all other Godzilla movies have him being created in 1954. A period piece Godzilla movie would be interesting. That hasn't been done before in live action.
     
  11. JD

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    They managed to do some pretty good looking daytime CGI monster battles in Pacific Rim: Uprising.
     
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  12. Starbreaker

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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking in this movie. Excellent Kaiju battles in the daytime, even though that movie is a mess story wise.

    I saw it in 3D so I could see it at 4 instead of 7, but I am honestly over 3D after this movie. It was only the second time I've seen a 3D movie this year. It looked better than Shazam, but it still didn't really add any depth to the film .
     
  13. thribs

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    Could be a different CGI team on this. That or it was a creative choice.
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  14. thribs

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    Most films aren’t filmed in 3D anymore. Just converted to in post production as a way to get more money of people. You have to spend a lot of time to make it good that way which I doubt they do.
     
  15. CuriousCaitian

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    Loved it! A great big unapologetic rush of a monster movie, with more than a few scenes that left my jaw on the cinema floor. Not perfect, but so entertaining, and all the kaiju so fantastic, it was hard to care.
     
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  16. Greg Cox

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    I've seen it. I don't think you need to be well-versed in the last movie to enjoy this one. Just understand that its five years after the last movie, the world knows Godzilla exists, and now what? The main characters are mostly new, and the returning characters don't come with complicated backstories. There's the scientist who wants to study Godzilla, the army general who wants to destroy him, etc. but this is all made clear in the new movie. It's nice that they brought back the same actor who played the army general in the last movie, but the plot doesn't depend on you recognizing him. He could be any army general, if you know what I mean.
     
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  17. The Nth Doctor

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    Saw it this afternoon. Once you accept King of the Spectacle for what it truly is, the film is a lot of damn fun. I've only ever been a casual fan of the Godzilla films so my knowledge of its lore is pretty limited, although I already knew King Ghidorah, Rodan, and Mothra (soooo gorgeous!). Based on comments I've seen elsewhere, I take it the giant mastodon is new? I definitely want to see more of that monster!

    I joked in the other thread how I expected the film to be Jane versus Godzilla, but it turns out I wasn't far from the mark! :eek: :lol: :D

    Seeing Maddie's ballsy move to face off against King Ghidorah for the sake of the planet was worth the price of admission alone. In reality, of course, she would've died, but through the power of cinematic magic (or the Upside Down!), she managed to go down dozens of Fenway flights of stairs before King Ghidorah burned the whole place down.

    Aside from Millie Bobby Brown charming us from beginning to the end, the surprise human star was the one and only Bradley Whitford! He had so many great lines, that it felt like he was channeling Josh Lyman. Ken Watanabe was also great as always and thankfully he actually got a lot more to do in this film than grimly mutter at the camera like he did for most of the last film.

    But let's get back to what we were all there for: The epic monster fights! It's amazing how far special effects of gone since Godzilla's inception because now all of them are sights to behold. Some of the close-ups on Ghidorah's heads were a little dodgy but pretty much everything else was spectacular, with Mothra being the CGI MVP, hands down!

    Not sure how I feel about the mad plan to awaken all of the monsters for the greater good of the planet long term because they bring stability and balance to Earth. I enjoy "humans are disease of the planet" as much as the next person (or perhaps more), but it seemed a bit ludicrous here. However, I realize that it's a very silly complaint in a film with giant monsters storming the planet. :lol:
     
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  18. Greg Cox

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    I'm not sure we were meant to accept that mad plan at face value. Certainly, most of the other characters thought it was a pretty crazy thing to do. The person responsible (he says vaguely) made a case for it, and believed in it enough to do what they did, but plenty of other characters argued against it, quite vocally.

    "You're a monster!"

    I think we were meant to question it. But it worked to motivate that one character.
     
  19. The Nth Doctor

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    Fair point. It just strains believability that such a person of scientific prestige would make such a claim in the first place, regardless of the circumstances and history.

    I do have to point out that David Strathairn played a Navy admiral, a rear admiral (upper half) in the first one, a vice admiral in this one. But otherwise, you're right.
     
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  20. Greg Cox

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    On hell, spoilers be damned. I think we're meant to question her mental health as well. Very early on in the movie, we have the daughter anxiously emailing her father: "I'm worried about mom."

    At that point, we don't know what she means, but turns out she had cause to be worried. :)

    Good catch on the general/admiral thing. But, yes, the fact that the Military Guy in this movie is the same Military Guy from the last movie is more of a bit of visual continuity than anything else. Anybody who skipped the last movie is not going to be wondering who this character is. He's the Military Guy in charge of the battleships and missiles.