Go see "Moon"!
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At the very least, it feels like one movie - not like a '2001' hommage with 'Event Horizon' stuck on it.
And I agree with Harvey concerning the plot holes (i.e. I don't see any huge ones either). I really liked the film a lot myself and look forward to seeing it again on DVD. I'm not sure how it will do over time. But I can certainly see it gathering somewhat of a cult following, if you will. I think it's quirky and different enough for that to happen.
At the very least, it feels like one movie - not like a '2001' hommage with 'Event Horizon' stuck on it.
And I agree with Harvey concerning the plot holes (i.e. I don't see any huge ones either). I really liked the film a lot myself and look forward to seeing it again on DVD. I'm not sure how it will do over time. But I can certainly see it gathering somewhat of a cult following, if you will. I think it's quirky and different enough for that to happen.
The plot holes were discussed at great length in previous threads about the movie. Here's just one of those posts...
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But even if you dismiss all that, the film still had a wonderful performance by Sam Rockwell, and thought out, believable production design. That production design alone sets it apart from nearly all filmed science fiction and makes it worthy of our attention.
The Corporation is doing this to save money in the long run, presumably. That means you have to accept that you can clone adult males with fully formed memories en masse for cheaper than it costs to ship a fully trained crew, which would also incur extra facility costs in order to accomodate so many extra people. That requires technology that doesn't exist, but as I said, this is in the future. The profit margin doesn't seem to be that wide, since damage to one lunar vehicle elicits pissed off corporate suits seen talking to GERTY. But corporations are about the bottom line, however minute the savings.
Discussions of civil and criminal liability make sense in the present, but not in the corportized world the film depicts (and that Duncan Jones explains will be fodder for a sequel). Also, as an adult clone and not a born human being, does Sam Bell possess any legal rights? Certainly the Corporation would argue no.
You wonder how the Corporation can get away with this. Corporations get away with much, much worse in the so-called third world everyday in the present. It requires no suspension of disbelief to believe that a corporation could accomplish the same on the far side of the moon, which is unreachable for nearly all, and impossible to see since it never faces the Earth.
That the corporate controlled media has no interest in Sam Bell is no surprise. The media had no interest in the Apollo missions after we landed on the moon, and that level of disinterest took a matter of months This takes place 15 years after the initial missions.
Finally, the visions need no explaining. Sam Bell was suffering from a physical and mental breakdown that seemed to afflict every clone after three years. That he was hallucinating fits.
Discussions of civil and criminal liability make sense in the present, but not in the corportized world the film depicts (and that Duncan Jones explains will be fodder for a sequel). Also, as an adult clone and not a born human being, does Sam Bell possess any legal rights? Certainly the Corporation would argue no.
You wonder how the Corporation can get away with this. Corporations get away with much, much worse in the so-called third world everyday in the present. It requires no suspension of disbelief to believe that a corporation could accomplish the same on the far side of the moon, which is unreachable for nearly all, and impossible to see since it never faces the Earth.
That the corporate controlled media has no interest in Sam Bell is no surprise. The media had no interest in the Apollo missions after we landed on the moon, and that level of disinterest took a matter of months This takes place 15 years after the initial missions.
Finally, the visions need no explaining. Sam Bell was suffering from a physical and mental breakdown that seemed to afflict every clone after three years. That he was hallucinating fits.
But even if you dismiss all that, the film still had a wonderful performance by Sam Rockwell, and thought out, believable production design. That production design alone sets it apart from nearly all filmed science fiction and makes it worthy of our attention.
Yeah, for someone to say Moon wasn't deserving to be watched on the big screen ... Well, thankfully that's subjective. The attention to detail for the production design and the overall aesethetic of the movie was nearly worth the price of admission alone. It reminded me of such classic sci-fi films as 2001 or Outland. Very stylish and very well done. The cinematography, too... Gorgeous. The moment where Sam hallucinates and sees a body amongst the harvester... Stunning.
As I said in the earlier thread,
we're talking about a corporation creating people for the sole purpose of cheap labor, implanting those people with false memories, cutting them off from the rest of humanity, making them live in forced isolation for years, allowing them to believe they have a nice full life and a family waiting for them back on earth, allowing them to die a slow, lonely death, and then disintegrating their remains and acting like they never existed. I'm curious as to what you think corporations are doing in the third world these days that is "much, much worse" than that.
Sorry, but comparing this movie to 2001 is way overselling it. Outland, I can see, especially since the whole "constant countdown clock to bad guys showing up" was taken directly from Outland. But Outland isn't exactly a classic, is it?
Please don't take this as a personal attack...and I'm not claiming "Moon" to be the next 2001, Blade Runner, etc.
However...
Moon is worth seeing because it takes chances. It makes you think. There are no set shots with mind-blowing effects. It isn't just the plot that makes it worth seeing, it's the themes, the motifs.
By this reasoning we should go see GI Joe, Transformers, and 2012 simply because they have big effects shots.
Because of the very nature of the film it should absolutely be seen in the theater. Drive thirty miles to see it . At least if you go see it and hate it, you'll have, at the very least, an opportunity to consider why. If you don't like GI Joe, it's simply because it's a throwaway movie. Wait for the DVD? Because there's nothing that "demands" to be seen on the big screen?
And one last thing, when Sam is weeping in his Rover, wanting to go home, staring at Earth, so huge yet so untouchable, that was worth more than anything Bay or Sommers will bring you. A truly touching moment.
