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GM and Segway create new vehicle

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This has surely got to be some kind of a joke?

It can only travel 35 miles per charge, can only go as fast as 35mph, costs £4,795 and carries only 2 people with absolutely no boot space.

I don't know about anyone else but for an extra £2000 i'd rather buy a brand spanking new Smart car..... or for the same price i'll get a second hand one that's not too old.
 
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It's my guess that Dean Kamen is trying to find a new use for his balancing technology, since the Segway turned out to not actually be the future of transportation.

I wonder if there's any stated advantage to having just 2 wheels. My son claims it would improve traction, but I'm seeing how the Puma has to lever itself upright to move, and I'm thinking, "There's a part that will go bad, and there's a part that will go bad..."
 
I'm not sure what the point of this is considering they could add a third wheel instead of the Segway's pricey balance system and make it cheaper--think of a smaller version of Thai tuk tuks. Of course, adding a third wheel still really make this viable considering it's not going to replace the car even on a small scale and it's useless pretty much everywhere including big cities which seems to be their brilliant idea.

Sounds like a match made in hell if you ask me--it's not like GM needs a dud of a partner like Segway at this point. After all, we've sure changed our road infrastructure to support those things...
 
It's every bit as practical as a moped which is a common form of transportation in many countries.

With two wheels it would literally turn on a dime, you could drive it into a mini parking space, spin it round and it's ready to go.

If you want to carry groceries home, put them on the seat beside you. If you want to take your SO out on a date, you don't need storage. It would be better if you could remove that seat and replace it with some kind of bucket type thing that you could stack a few extra bags in. It's obviously for someone single so it needs to hold 2 or 3 bags at most.

I get around 99% of the time by bicycle, this is no less practical.

The roof and floor makes it more practical for getting to work in the rain than a moped.

The worst thing about it, it's light enough a couple of burly thieves could pick it up and stick it in a van (I lost a motorcycle that way). It's too heavy and big to take indoors. It needs a shade more protection against the elements, both for driving and for sitting outside in rough weather. Some side splash panels would be better. It needs a garage, but you really want to market it to urbane condo dwellers.
 
It's every bit as practical as a moped which is a common form of transportation in many countries.

Last time I checked, mopeds didn't cost US$7500. The cost will come down if it catches on, but that starting price is far too high for it to do so.
 
It's every bit as practical as a moped which is a common form of transportation in many countries.

Last time I checked, mopeds didn't cost US$7500. The cost will come down if it catches on, but that starting price is far too high for it to do so.

Good point. A lot of people in the UK just use motorised scooters capable of carrying 2 people and they even have a lift up seat to store things. The roads around my town are full of them.

I just can't see this new GM/Segway vehicle taking off. When you've got choices like motorised scooters and smart cars there's just no market for these things.
 
It's every bit as practical as a moped which is a common form of transportation in many countries.

Last time I checked, mopeds didn't cost US$7500. The cost will come down if it catches on, but that starting price is far too high for it to do so.

Good point. A lot of people in the UK just use motorised scooters capable of carrying 2 people and they even have a lift up seat to store things. The roads around my town are full of them.

I just can't see this new GM/Segway vehicle taking off. When you've got choices like motorised scooters and smart cars there's just no market for these things.

I've owned four scooters over the years. They're handy for short trips. But there are a couple of problems. First of all in my State, car drivers call them "Targets", and the State doesn't even consider it a crime to run over one. Unless there is alcohol involved for the car owner or the driver leaves the scene. Then unless you get a four stroke, refueling away from home becomes a problem. Most "Gas Stations" do not sell two stroke oil.

Those Segway things would just be road kill. Worthless.
 
Show me a wheelchair that can climb stairs and I'll see a use for the balancing tech.
 
The IIHS just showed footage of the small "Smartcar" and other micro-sized cars in collision tests with midsized cars.

The smartcar lifted and spun like a tilt-a-whirl buggy at a carnival.

The mass difference between the Smartcar and this Segway thing... I'd not be caught dead on a street in one of thses things unless anything with lesser mass is eliminated from the roadways. That'll never happen though as commercial trucking and the like are too crucial for "last mile" delivery.
 
I think the biggest mistake made with the Segway was its styling - Kamen is a brilliant man who surrounds himself with very intelligent and very loyal people, but their rationality is a detriment when it comes to marketing; they may see the value in pleasing or emotional design, but they don't strike me as understanding it. The Segway looked like a piece of medical equipment - a very sleek piece of medical equipment, but the smell of the hospital was all over it, nonetheless. Segway needed to have a stylist work on the PT before it ever got into the hands of the media, to make it look cool, not only in its style but in its operation. Toyota has a similar machine coming that is more like a skateboard, and on which people don't look like dorks. Sometimes, great ideas aren't enough to change the world - you've got to have sizzle to go along with the steak.

I think the GM/Segway PUMA is another such blunder; it's the answer to the question that nobody asked. It does nothing for GM, because it's clear that their involvement is little more than the battery technology and the brand name - the vehicle is clearly a brainchild of Segway, and they're not the ones trying to convince the taxpayers that they have what it takes to be a viable company. And unveiling it so publicly when it's still in its underwear, so to speak, is going to make it that much tougher to sell if and when they wrap it in a body. GM's got some good designers - they should've used them to at least temporarily make it look as futuristic as the technology inside it. All GM did with this, I think, is pull out a gun and shoot themselves in the foot with it.
 
Last time I checked, mopeds didn't cost US$7500. The cost will come down if it catches on, but that starting price is far too high for it to do so.

Good point. A lot of people in the UK just use motorised scooters capable of carrying 2 people and they even have a lift up seat to store things. The roads around my town are full of them.

I just can't see this new GM/Segway vehicle taking off. When you've got choices like motorised scooters and smart cars there's just no market for these things.

I've owned four scooters over the years. They're handy for short trips. But there are a couple of problems. First of all in my State, car drivers call them "Targets", and the State doesn't even consider it a crime to run over one. Unless there is alcohol involved for the car owner or the driver leaves the scene. Then unless you get a four stroke, refueling away from home becomes a problem. Most "Gas Stations" do not sell two stroke oil.

Those Segway things would just be road kill. Worthless.
In my city you would be charged for hitting a scooter, and if there was any indication that you considered it a "target" and someone died as a result, you would be charged with murder.

As far as my quote above, I was responding to whether it was physically practical, not whether it it was cheap. As pictured it is more practical than a scooter or a moped, and would be moreso if it had a full enclosure, or removable side panels.

I agree about the styling. People pay ridiculous prices for Macs because they look nice, not because they are practical.
 
How exactly is this different from a golf cart, other than having two wheels and maybe being able to swivel? I see the occasional golf cart on city streets here (with license plates and everything). I think they have about the same range, max speed, and have a covered roof too.
 
How exactly is this different from a golf cart, other than having two wheels and maybe being able to swivel? I see the occasional golf cart on city streets here (with license plates and everything). I think they have about the same range, max speed, and have a covered roof too.

Beats me. I loved tuk tuks as a kid, and I personally still find them novel seeing them on the streets in Thailand.

Of course, the exact same argument of "how's that different" could be made with the PUMA and a golf cart too.
 
How exactly is this different from a golf cart, other than having two wheels and maybe being able to swivel? I see the occasional golf cart on city streets here (with license plates and everything). I think they have about the same range, max speed, and have a covered roof too.

Beats me. I loved tuk tuks as a kid, and I personally still find them novel seeing them on the streets in Thailand.

Of course, the exact same argument of "how's that different" could be made with the PUMA and a golf cart too.

I actually meant the PUMA and a golf cart - the tuk tuk seems to be more like a modified motorcycle. From my perspective, GM and Segway have paired up, with great fanfare, to invent a fancy golf cart, a product that already exists, does the exact same thing, and is probably cheaper.
 
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