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Gina Carano Sueing for Wrongful Termination from Disney

She compared being a conservative to being Jewish during the Holocost, made of fun of people using masks during the pandemic, she's an 2020 election denier. I don't remember exactly, but she also made a lot of racist and/or homophobic and/or transphobic comments. Her lawsuit was also funded by Elon Musk, and that alone is all the evidence you need to tell you that she's a horrible person.
 
JD said:
She compared being a conservative to being Jewish during the Holocost, made of fun of people using masks during the pandemic, she's an 2020 election denier. I don't remember exactly, but she also made a lot of racist and/or homophobic and/or transphobic comments. Her lawsuit was also funded by Elon Musk, and that alone is all the evidence you need to tell you that she's a horrible person.
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First the most controversial statement she made was the one disney fired her for. I dont recall her making any racist remarks. I.guess you're talking about her pronouns joke? People kept harassing her to put pronouns on her X and she didnt want go si she put beep boop bop or something like that. Whatever else I dont follow her close enough to know. But I do know she's never hurt anyone or committed a crime. Shes far from a horrible human being. I reserve that for people who commit actual crimes.
 
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TRON JA307020 said:
Well if she's actually committed a crime I have never heard of it. Shes opinionated. Thats basically what im hearing here. Honestly big deal.
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Not my point. I’m not aware that she committed crimes either. I just find it interesting that you appear to be saying that committing actual crimes would make someone a horrible human being.
 
The Realist said:
Not my point. I’m not aware that she committed crimes either. I just find it interesting that you appear to be saying that being a criminal would make someone a horrible human being.
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The few things she's been opinionated about aren't in the level of a horrible human being. I swear the over criticism of peoples opinions is getting really dangerous. For the last few years people have been canceled, threatened and even hurt for their opinions. Its insane. Agree to disagree, give a counter opinion and just move on. To continually try and bring a person down either publically or professionally is probably more horrible than any comment the person made. It's and insane path for a person to even stay on. Social media is a very harsh judge and jury on people.
 
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JD said:
She compared being a conservative to being Jewish during the Holocost, made of fun of people using masks during the pandemic, she's an 2020 election denier. I don't remember exactly, but she also made a lot of racist and/or homophobic and/or transphobic comments. Her lawsuit was also funded by Elon Musk, and that alone is all the evidence you need to tell you that she's a horrible person.
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Everyone uses Nazi's as a metaphor these days. The question isn't really about whether or not she is a bad person. That is subjective when it comes to the law. The question is whether or not her she was treated equally under the law.

Their is also the fact that she said her stuff online and not at work and not to co-workers. I have always had problems of people being fired for stuff they do in their private time. I don't think companies should have that much power over people, even when they are not at work. If she said those things while on the set it would IMO be a whole different issue.

Then their is the Disney aspect. Of all the people trying to make moral judgments on people it is not this corporation. They have a long history of fucking over people. Doing business with unethical people, like say China despite it's civil rights abuses. I have a hard time ever siding with billionaires on almost anything. Last thing I want is corporations talking about is morality and ethics.
 
Even when you're not at work when you say things, you're still going to be associated with the company in people's minds, and the companies are not going to want to be associated with you. I'm not a fan of the big corporations either, but they're all about their public image, and they're not going to want that image damaged, so I completely understand why they fire people like Corano.
TRON JA307020 said:
First the most controversial statement she made was the one disney fired her for. I dont recall her making any racist remarks. I.guess you're talking about her pronouns joke? People kept harassing her to put pronouns on her X and she didnt want go si she put beep boop bop or something like that. Whatever else I dont follow her close enough to know. But I do know she's never hurt anyone or committed a crime. Shes far from a horrible human being. I reserve that for people who commit actual crimes.
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UssGlenn said:
technically, she reposted someone else's post about how before they could haul people away they had to turn their neighbors against them.
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I'll be honestly I didn't remember exactly what she said and did, I was just going by what Wikipedia say and what little I do remember. I know back when all of the this first started I did see some of the exact Tweets, and I remember being disgusted and being glad that Disney was done with her.
TRON JA307020 said:
The few things she's been opinionated about aren't in the level of a horrible human being. I swear the over criticism of peoples opinions is getting really dangerous. For the last few years people have been canceled, threatened and even hurt for their opinions. Its insane. Agree to disagree, give a counter opinion and just move on. To continually try and bring a person down either publically or professionally is probably more horrible than any comment the person made. It's and insane path for a person to even stay on. Social media is a very harsh judge and jury on people.
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Meh, I have absolutely no sympathy for people like Carano. And honestly, at this point this kind of thing has been going on long enough that people have to know what will happen if they say offensive shit online, so if they're stupid enough to still say offensive shit, then they'll get what they deserve.
Saying offensive shit is also not totally harmless, just look at the number of people who've committed suicide or been attacked, or other crimes that have been committed because of things that people have said on the internet.
 
JD said:
Even when you're not at work when you say things, you're still going to be associated with the company in people's minds, and the companies are not going to want to be associated with you. I'm not a fan of the big corporations either, but they're all about their public image, and they're not going to want that image damaged, so I completely understand why they fire people like Corano.



I'll be honestly I didn't remember exactly what she said and did, I was just going by what Wikipedia say and what little I do remember. I know back when all of the this first started I did see some of the exact Tweets, and I remember being disgusted and being glad that Disney was done with her.

Meh, I have absolutely no sympathy for people like Carano. And honestly, at this point this kind of thing has been going on long enough that people have to know what will happen if they say offensive shit online, so if they're stupid enough to still say offensive shit, then they'll get what they deserve.
Saying offensive shit is also not totally harmless, just look at the number of people who've committed suicide or been attacked, or other crimes that have been committed because of things that people have said on the internet.
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Whoopi Goldberg said something similar and got two weeks suspension from Disney. She said hers twice I believe. The second time it went completely unnoticed. It should be one rule fits all and not pick and choose.

But its over now and I really hope Disney give her the role back in the mandalorian.
 
Problem is corporations can use that in other direction. Look at them today with the anti-DEI stuff. While I don't buy that Colbert was fired for political reasons I suspect their has been many people fired by corporations who are worried of offending Trump or for being to woke in recent years. It is always IMO better to support a individuals civil liberties even if the person is bad person over government and corporate interests. They got enough power as it is with their money and influence. We don't need to be giving them even more power.

I think the reality is her comments would have made no impact on anything. Just another person on the internet ranting about the state of things. People would watch the show because people liked The Mandalorian more than they care about some of the actors opinions on stuff. I could see them having concerns about giving her a show as the lead though. I mean you already know she has political views so if you give her a bigger show then you run the risk of basically doing the reverse Rachel Ziegler. Her right ring ideas blowing up beyond some Twitter fighting.


Makes sense IMO to basically just let her finish out her run on the Mandalorian and quietly end that show they were going to do. Then you don't have to hire her back since she wouldn't be under contract. She would have a harder court case to win because Disney can always point out that they let her keep working on The Mandalorian even after she said things they don't agree with.
 
TRON JA307020 said:
Whoopi Goldberg said something similar and got two weeks suspension from Disney. She said hers twice I believe. The second time it went completely unnoticed. It should be one rule fits all and not pick and choose.
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Not quite. Whoopi Goldberg said the holocaust wasnt about race and was about man's inhumanity to man. That is just an ignorant statement, ignorance can be educated.

Gina Carano directly compared herself being called out for supporting far right conspiracy theories as being the same as a jewish person during the holocaust. That is grotesque and needs shutting down.

They are not the same circumstances. And the fact that miss Carano got away with so much far right nonsense with no consequences showed she was in good standing but then she crossed a line no company can ignore or else Disney would have appeared to have been condoning this view.

You make your employers look bad because you can't keep your opinions to yourself, you get sacked. Very simple and applicable to any workplace. And let us not forget Disney are certainly a company that would want to distance themselves from any nazi-related issues.
 
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Gina Carano directly compared herself being called out for supporting far right conspiracy theories as being the same as a jewish person during the holocaust.
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Nope.
Detached Nacelle said:
And the fact that miss Carano got away with so much far right nonsense
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She was cancelled for an infinitesimal amount of political incorrectness. There was no "so much". So much isn't a requirement in this climate. All you have to do is display a moment of irreverence to the regime's sacred caste.
 
Set Harth said:
She was cancelled for an infinitesimal amount of political incorrectness. There was no "so much". So much isn't a requirement in this climate. All you have to do is display a moment of irreverence to the regime's sacred caste.
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If say, perpetuating baseless claims against democratic processes, claims that directly led to violence, and spreading dangerous misinformation during the height of a pandemic are merely infinitesimal amounts of political incorrectness in your eyes then I feel this debate is at an impasse and nothing will be served for either of us if it continues. I choose we part with civility.
 
There are many disney "employees" that have said similar or worse on the left, Pedro isn't innocent, Bette Middler is atrocious ( and yet still got hocus pocus 2) Mark Ruffolo puts his foot in his mouth occasionally, and many other examples, yet they all have jobs still.

To me ( my opinion of course) Gina's conversations on the socials was similar or more of the time less offensive than others. It was mainly a small subset of people on the socials that didn't like her and they were the loudest. ( the socials are full of scum and villainy) So to me No, what Gina said does not rise to the level of firing/ no contract renewal. and I'm glad she won.
Now, can we get back to not giving a crap what political affiliation Hollywood types are?
 
DarrenTR1970 said:
Well, the statement from Disney says that they look forward to working with her on a project in the 'near future'.
So, Disney probably caved to demands/pressure and we're going to be seeing her in a Star Wars project soon.
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No, what they said was [capital casing, because it's copied from the Variety headline]:

'We Look Forward to Identifying Opportunities to Work Together in the Future’​

The implication there is in fact that, at the time those words were written, no such projects had yet been identified.

Mytran said:
Both sides settled out of court. Neither side "won"
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Yep, exactly.
 
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If say, perpetuating baseless claims against democratic processes, claims that directly led to violence, and spreading dangerous misinformation during the height of a pandemic are merely infinitesimal amounts of political incorrectness in your eyes then I feel this debate is at an impasse and nothing will be served for either of us if it continues. I choose we part with civility.
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I looked up her case. There was no violence attributed to anything she has ever said. Shes never ever called for violence of any kind. I don't get this at all.
 
TRON JA307020 said:
I looked up her case. There was no violence attributed to anything she has ever said. Shes never ever called for violence of any kind. I don't get this at all.
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Denial of the election results did cause violence and she perpetuated those claims. She may have personally not called for violence but she echoed voices that did.
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What is this supposed to be in reference to?
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Her views on masks and vaccinations.

If you still see nothing wrong then I wish you well but I'm afraid I will never understand your point of view.
 
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