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GhostBusters 3 is Finally Being Made. (2020 Release)

Why him? It'd be far more sensible for the original team to make the call as a business decision. An increase in ghost activity all over the world overwhelming them that they can't possibly handle all on their own prompting an expansion of sorts and a call for new busters. Then you have the training, the assignments, and then a big epic showdown between a supernatural force requiring the cooperation between the different teams around the world.
To me this setting would only be fun if the movie focused on a small mom and pop team. I feel the heroes in these movies should be underdogs io some fashion. Jason
 
Which is why I feel it would make sense for them to have gone the franchise route. Because, honestly, I think it makes far less sense for them to still be the only outlet busting ghosts given how big the world is. Would be more interesting too to see other outlets take the calls.
I think the comics eventually went this route, with two or three other teams in other cities.
 
Why him? It'd be far more sensible for the original team to make the call as a business decision. An increase in ghost activity all over the world overwhelming them that they can't possibly handle all on their own prompting an expansion of sorts and a call for new busters. Then you have the training, the assignments, and then a big epic showdown between a supernatural force requiring the cooperation between the different teams around the world.


I forgot to add the ” ;)

I was just joking since Hemsworth starred in MIB international
 
To me this setting would only be fun if the movie focused on a small mom and pop team. I feel the heroes in these movies should be underdogs io some fashion. Jason


The best thing about it is that it would allow for diversity. If a small mom & pop team is included among that, then that's cool too. Like literally a mom and pop ;) Would actually be kind of funny to see.
 
Yeah those definitely look like Egon's kids or Grandkids. The younger kid looks to be wearing his grandpa's old glasses or a similar style of glasses



Jason Reitman instagramed a photo of Ecto-1

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz0wMFVp967/?utm_source=ig_embed

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Umm..i am pretty sure those are the DIRECTOR's kids (and original director's grandkids)...but could totally see them cast as EGon's kids.


Which is why I feel it would make sense for them to have gone the franchise route. Because, honestly, I think it makes far less sense for them to still be the only outlet busting ghosts given how big the world is. Would be more interesting too to see other outlets take the calls.

Definitely...and also, i think a WHOLE LOT of the criticism of the new Ghostbusters would have vanished like a ghost, with only the true misogynists out there. Having them be a new franchise, perhaps for some reason unsupported, (maybe Venkman or Ray was in charge of administration of that, so , well... you' know..)

Also, could've explored a new area of the US...and maybe Patty's knowledge of the local history/culture might have actually had an impact.



Maybe Chris Hemsworth character from the 2016 movie could start a "Ghostbusters International" branch ;)

I forgot to add the ” ;)

I was just joking since Hemsworth starred in MIB international

"I understood that reference"

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Now, the new Ghostbusters seemed to have opened the door (so to speak) to a multiverse, where perhaps the "real Ghostbusters" could make an appearance, and "bless" the new generation. It's really too bad that the old cast just had random cameos (though SIgourney Weaver's was actually really funny).. it would have been nice to have a hand off.
 
Umm..i am pretty sure those are the DIRECTOR's kids (and original director's grandkids)...but could totally see them cast as EGon's kids.

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No. The older boy is Finn Wolfhard (from Stranger things) who has been cast in the movie

http://collider.com/ghostbusters-2020-cast-photo/

And WOW. I didn't know the younger kid was a girl. She looks like a boy in that picture

McKenna Grace is the one with the Egon glasses
 
People "forgetting" about the Ghostbusters between GB1 and GB2 is the obvious and natural pie in the face to the team that is directly in line with all of the other comedy plot beats in GB1 regarding the uphill battle that they have to fight to get people to believe that the ghosts they are busting are real. In terms of comedy, it's such an obvious play that it's really banal.
 
Definitely...and also, i think a WHOLE LOT of the criticism of the new Ghostbusters would have vanished like a ghost, with only the true misogynists out there. Having them be a new franchise, perhaps for some reason unsupported, (maybe Venkman or Ray was in charge of administration of that, so , well... you' know..)

Also, could've explored a new area of the US...and maybe Patty's knowledge of the local history/culture might have actually had an impact.


Yeah, that too. Making it into one of several franchise operations doesn't step on any toes. Keeps the option open for the original gang to return as well as opening up the option of other teams. It's a win/win. Rather ironically, it's too bad the 2016 movie used the 'Answer the call' tagline as it would have been perfect for the franchising and training idea.

Regarding other areas of the U.S, I agree. I've often said I've wanted to see one set in New Orleans which itself has a long history with the supernatural. There are so many options to explore that I don't see any real good reason to limit it to NY. I wish that we end up seeing something in that direction with this sequel.
 
People "forgetting" about the Ghostbusters between GB1 and GB2 is the obvious and natural pie in the face to the team that is directly in line with all of the other comedy plot beats in GB1 regarding the uphill battle that they have to fight to get people to believe that the ghosts they are busting are real. In terms of comedy, it's such an obvious play that it's really banal.

It’s played as a sort of class thing too....the ordinary people believe, it’s the ones in power that don’t, because it upsets their order when they have to.
Then you get the children’s party as a way of suggesting they are remembered more as a novelty fad.
 
It’s played as a sort of class thing too....the ordinary people believe, it’s the ones in power that don’t, because it upsets their order when they have to.
Then you get the children’s party as a way of suggesting they are remembered more as a novelty fad.

Yes and the late night fringe tv show. I was played for laughs, like a lot was, but it also fit their world.

I'm not sure if I believe in what people call ghosts are actually ghosts but I am sure that I don't believe these so called ghost hunters that have their own shows now.
I'm not saying my opinion is shared by all but anyone who wasn't a first hand witness of the Ghostbusters would probably think it was an elaborate hoax or a show to make money, add to that city officials that are still suspicious and probably not silent pushing people's opinions towards it being fake.
 
The problem with the hoax explanation is that the confrontation caused massive damage. If people truly believed the Ghostbusters faked it all, they should be in jail or banned from ever running that business again and permanently in debt to the city to pay reparations. Or at the very least tied up in terrible court battles with tons of angry people bad mouthing them all over the place.

Them just being forgotten is plain weird and stupid.
 
The problem with the hoax explanation is that the confrontation caused massive damage. If people truly believed the Ghostbusters faked it all, they should be in jail or banned from ever running that business again and permanently in debt to the city to pay reparations. Or at the very least tied up in terrible court battles with tons of angry people bad mouthing them all over the place.

Them just being forgotten is plain weird and stupid.

That’s precisely what was happening before Gozer howled up and the walls started bleeding. Then we have the finale, but somewhere between the two films people start to think more like Walter Peck. And Winston sums up what happened from the people perspective ‘blew two storeys off a tower block and cover most of lower Manhattan in marshmallow’ because if people don’t fool themselves, the whole thing becomes a different type of story. We see it again and again Doctor Who as well, and now and then it’s lampshaded or dealt with.

Some viewers may find that unrealistic...for others it’s just an accepted piece of the fiction. It’s weird perhaps, but not stupid. Why are people still driving cars like ours, using phones like ours, when Tony Stark has invented limitless energy and new tech? Why would anyone stay in New York? It’s full of alien invasions and superheroes beating the shite out of the masonry. Aliens exist. Gods exist...people have seen Thor whooshing around, why isn’t there a resurgence in old Norse religions?
Why isn’t the world a massive American empire, they have all the superheroes?
By three movies in minimum the earth in the MCU should be very different to our own. By ten it should be an alien world to all intents.

It works because it keeps to its own rules within itself. Internal consistency, narrative logic, and the suspension of disbelief. The basic cornerstones of all non-literary fiction (and arguably even literary fiction has to follow it...it’s no good if Jane Eyre says ‘fuck this for a game of soldiers’ stabs everyone and goes off to be the antagonist in a Sherlock Holmes novel.)

GB2 is internally consistent with GB1. Vigo is consistent with a world in which Ivo Shandor builds temples in NYC, and huge chunks of parapsychology, spiritualism and theoretical science are all true and interrelated. This is largely because of how good Danny Akroyd is at this stuff when the bits between his teeth, and partially why the reboot didn’t do well...it copied the surface but didn’t get the framework underpinning it.
 
That’s precisely what was happening before Gozer howled up and the walls started bleeding. Then we have the finale, but somewhere between the two films people start to think more like Walter Peck. And Winston sums up what happened from the people perspective ‘blew two storeys off a tower block and cover most of lower Manhattan in marshmallow’ because if people don’t fool themselves, the whole thing becomes a different type of story. We see it again and again Doctor Who as well, and now and then it’s lampshaded or dealt with.

Some viewers may find that unrealistic...for others it’s just an accepted piece of the fiction. It’s weird perhaps, but not stupid. Why are people still driving cars like ours, using phones like ours, when Tony Stark has invented limitless energy and new tech? Why would anyone stay in New York? It’s full of alien invasions and superheroes beating the shite out of the masonry. Aliens exist. Gods exist...people have seen Thor whooshing around, why isn’t there a resurgence in old Norse religions?
Why isn’t the world a massive American empire, they have all the superheroes?
By three movies in minimum the earth in the MCU should be very different to our own. By ten it should be an alien world to all intents.

It works because it keeps to its own rules within itself. Internal consistency, narrative logic, and the suspension of disbelief. The basic cornerstones of all non-literary fiction (and arguably even literary fiction has to follow it...it’s no good if Jane Eyre says ‘fuck this for a game of soldiers’ stabs everyone and goes off to be the antagonist in a Sherlock Holmes novel.)

GB2 is internally consistent with GB1. Vigo is consistent with a world in which Ivo Shandor builds temples in NYC, and huge chunks of parapsychology, spiritualism and theoretical science are all true and interrelated. This is largely because of how good Danny Akroyd is at this stuff when the bits between his teeth, and partially why the reboot didn’t do well...it copied the surface but didn’t get the framework underpinning it.

'It was happening that way until people saw it was real and then they decided it wasn't real but it didn't go back to happening that way because everyone just forgot about everything' isn't consistent at all. I mean, I guess you could make an argument for comedic sensibilities over realistic ones, but even then I don't buy it. Because they put too much weight on it.

Most series have inconsistencies like this such as, as you say, the Arc Reactor (although 'American Empire'? Really? That's the exact opposite of what would logically happen in the MCU) but there are differences in degree and severity. The MCU can skate by because the technological means of everyday people just aren't in focus much (and because technological progress doesn't have to be immediately visually obvious, anyway), but these inconsistencies cause a lot more issues when you deliberately zoom in on them, deliberately beg the question and then offer no answer. That's not a lampshade anymore, it's a magnifying glass.
 
'It was happening that way until people saw it was real and then they decided it wasn't real but it didn't go back to happening that way because everyone just forgot about everything' isn't consistent at all. I mean, I guess you could make an argument for comedic sensibilities over realistic ones, but even then I don't buy it. Because they put too much weight on it.

Most series have inconsistencies like this such as, as you say, the Arc Reactor (although 'American Empire'? Really? That's the exact opposite of what would logically happen in the MCU) but there are differences in degree and severity. The MCU can skate by because the technological means of everyday people just aren't in focus much (and because technological progress doesn't have to be immediately visually obvious, anyway), but these inconsistencies cause a lot more issues when you deliberately zoom in on them, deliberately beg the question and then offer no answer. That's not a lampshade anymore, it's a magnifying glass.

It happens all the time in many sf & f franchises though. MIB has its neurolyzers essentially making fun of this fact. (And of course an American empire would happen in the MCU...as it stands in the films, they have all the superheroes. It’s an imbalance of power...it’s even drawn attention in the deconstruction of superheroes that is Watchmen. Once you have godlike beings basically claiming citizenship, that’s it...they are like little nukes.)

Why is it a problem here in this one?
 
Because of how much weight they put on it. YMMV.

And MCU America has exactly two superheroes - the rest were always free agents. And both of those two went rogue the second they thought it was the right thing to do.
 
I was never really that bothered by people forgetting about the end of the first movie. Sure, it might not be completely realistic, but I thought they made it work for the story telling.
The only time that kind of thing bothered me was in Doctor Who, but that was only because they did it over, and over, and over again.
If they do a whole series of GB movies with some big massive supernatural event that everybody forgets by the next movie, then I might start getting annoyed.
 
I never liked the implication that Murray was "the star" and the others were there to support him, and reading about Murray I think that's what he thought as well.

One thing that both Ghostbuters and GBII seem to do that a lot of other movies don't is remember there are economic concerns to deal with. In the first movie, they were getting a mortgage and their food was the last of their petty cash and the whole Walter peckerless Peck sub plot was the bureaucracy accusing them of defrauding people to get their money.
The only reason they hired Winston was they were so busy, the only reason they were so busy is because of Gozer's increased activity, so when Gozer went so did their business and they went broke. Do people fondly remember flash in the pan businesses that go broke? Not usually, which puts them where they started in GBII. It's not fun, but I think it makes sense.

Sure, they were on hard times before the Sedgewick Hotel and business boomed, but I don't think the Ghostbusters business was a failure at all (well, besides the judicial restrainment order and countless lawsuits filed by the city, county and state of New York). At the height of their popularity, they were on the covers of the Atlantic, Time Magazine, Omni, not to mention making tv appearances while being completely inundated with ghost complaints. They were raking in the cash. They may have even paid their debt off in this time.

Come around to Ghostbusters II, they still own the firehouse and Ecto-1. So they weren't seized by the bank. Winston was still on the payroll as well, which seems to indicate they were flush with cash and hadn't gone bankrupt. Hell, when the restraining order was lifted, they wasted no time jazzing up the Ecto-1A.
 
I have to admit, one of the things I'm most curious about with the new movie is what exactly the state of the world and the Ghostbusters will be.
Even if they don't actually appear, which seems highly unlikely, then the movie will at least give us some hints or something about what happened to them since GBII.
 
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