Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).

[jaime]

Ghostbusters is kid friendly?! Dan Ackroyd gets a blowjob in the first movie!

It's vague as the sequence is from a cut scene. He could just as easily have been kicked in the nuts. It's usually edited even more than it is already for tv. Odds on a kid k owing what a succubus, or indeed a blow job, is,are slim.

 

[Mr Light]

Even as an innocent little kid, seeing a woman hovering over a man, pulling down his zipper, and his eyes rolling up in ecstasy sent a pretty clear message what was going on...

 

[Myko]

I find it funny how you're going on about the blowjob scene as the thing that makes the original Ghostbusters not kid friendly. No kid would understand what's even happening, or if they did they wouldn't find it shocking. Meanwhile the movie has some terrible jump scares and imagery that scared me shitless as a kid. It's like the stereotype of american "sex is bad, violence and gore is ok".

 

[jaime]

I find it funny how you're going on about the blowjob scene as the thing that makes the original Ghostbusters not kid friendly. No kid would understand what's even happening, or if they did they wouldn't find it shocking. Meanwhile the movie has some terrible jump scares and imagery that scared me shitless as a kid. It's like the stereotype of american "sex is bad, violence and gore is ok".

He groans and falls out of bed. Me as a kid thought that was funny and assumed it had gone for him. Admittedly, slapstick is funnier when you are 5.
The jump scares terrified my sister...the second film is not child friendly, baby snatching, heads on poles etc. The first one really only has the librarian ghost and maybe the mintage sequence with the mink. The terror dogs are....variable.

 

[Mr Light]

As I dimly recall, I did find those devil dogs pretty terrifying as a kid.

 

[Myko]

Same, the chair scene still unnerves me.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Even as an innocent little kid, seeing a woman hovering over a man, pulling down his zipper, and his eyes rolling up in ecstasy sent a pretty clear message what was going on...

Now I wish the new movie featured a scene implying a man performing oral sex on one of the women. I mean, fairness and all.

 

[jaime]

Now I wish the new movie featured a scene implying a man performing oral sex on one of the women. I mean, fairness and all.

Hey...you can always remember the spores moulds and fungus scene and reinterpret it. My biggest problem with ghostbusters 2 is ignoring the Egon and Janine romance, and I was 9 when I saw that film.

 

[Captain Craig]

The Ghostbusters cartoon for sure downplayed the intensity of the horror elements and did away with the adult innuendo and other things. The property was, it felt, retooled to play to a younger audience. In much the same way Rambo and Robocop were turned into kid cartoons for Sat morning. I mean Rambo & Robocop as kid-centric cartoons??

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

The Ghostbusters cartoon for sure downplayed the intensity of the horror elements and did away with the adult innuendo and other things.

I have to disagree with you there. The first couple of seasons of The Real Ghostbusters used some elements that were surprisingly frightening for a "kids' cartoon." That would eventually change in the years to come, as the series was re-titled Slimer and the Real Ghostbusters, but it had its moments that were just as jarring as most of what was created for the oriignal movie.

The property was, it felt, retooled to play to a younger audience. In much the same way Rambo and Robocop were turned into kid cartoons for Sat morning. I mean Rambo & Robocop as kid-centric cartoons??

That did not matter--at least in the case of Rambo: The Force of Freedom (1986), since kids were not only well aware of the live action version, but the one-season cartoon was quicky forgotten as Rambo III hit theatres with even more violence in 1988. Unlike Ghostbusters compared to The Real Ghostbusters, where the fright elements were not too far apart, Rambo: The Force of Freedom was so watered down from the movie exploits of John Rambo, that it was not seriously embraced by fans of any age.

 

[Trekkin]

They weren't all bad. I seem to recall the 90's Men in Black and Godzilla cartoons being pretty good. Although like Extreme Ghostbusters, I haven't seen either of those since the 90's. They very well may have sucked ass.

Rambo III hit theatres with even more violence in 1988.

For a movie that had such a huge body count, Rambo III is the least dark and gritty of the four. He even has a kid sidekick. I really wouldn't be surprised if it had been intended to try and net a bit younger audience.

 

[Richard Baker]

I think just about any of the 'Real Ghostbusters' animated episodes would have made a better film that what we ended up with in 'Ghostbusters 2'

I have been watching some of the Extreme Ghostbusters on Hulu recently. I think the two parter where the original team returns is my favorite so far. It was kinda sad though seeing how dismal their lives ended up after they left the ghostbusting business.

 

[Tosk]

In much the same way Rambo and Robocop were turned into kid cartoons for Sat morning. I mean Rambo & Robocop as kid-centric cartoons??

The true king of "R rated film becomes kid's cartoon" properties goes to the Toxic Avenger. Holy cow.

 

[jaime]

The true king of "R rated film becomes kid's cartoon" properties goes to the Toxic Avenger. Holy cow.

Not least as that cartoon was actually something of a success. We even got it here in the UK.
The robocop and rambo ones never made it here...the later TV series did though. In more or less the same slot as SeaQuest DSV, and earlier, airwolf, knight rider and the A Team did.

To go back to GB though...the cartoons plot lines, and that includes some of the Extreme Ghostbusters... Were actually darker than the first film. They also managed a sequel or two to the first film, a comic book adaptation of the second d film which included deleted scenes that help the story make more sense, and extreme was a very good way to show precisely how to bring the series back without a full reboot. Though I didn't like the art style in extreme. (saying that some of the earlier one had rather shonky moments too.)

Yes...after the initial run, a lot of the grown up aspects were toned down and voice actors changed, but I don't know if I ever saw those, as i think only the initial bunch were shown in the UK. (the series one dvd here is definitely not all of series one as that was massive because of syndication or something)
Anyone who thinks the cartoon was just for kids probably hasn't actually watched many episodes since then...Yes it shifted toys, and was a Saturday morning cartoon, but it was darker in theme (I hate dark and gritty being synonym for adult, and indeed in general, but here it contrasts with the colourful if scarey designs) and as apocalyptic as the films, more so in fact.
It was written by a pre Babylon 5 JMS too, so that's probably to be expected.
Go and Rewatch the early ones. Janine is handled especially well, and Winston also.
This is the Ghostbusters most of a certain generation remember, so it's gonna be in my mind when I watch the new one.

 

[Mr Light]

Ooo, I just learned a new Brit lingo! So "shifting toys" means selling toys? Doesn't "shifting" also mean moving, as in moving from one house to another?

 

[jaime]

Ooo, I just learned a new Brit lingo! So "shifting toys" means selling toys? Doesn't "shifting" also mean moving, as in moving from one house to another?

It just means moving yup. In this case 'selling' as moving.
Shift your carcass - move your body, to get someone out of your way or chair.
Shifty - dodgy, possibly because dodgy people can't keep still. Which also applies to something being wrong in general.
I think its general to all forms of English to be honest, we just apply it to more things.
Do not confuse 'shifty' with 'shufty/shufti' which means to look at something, a butchers, a gander...

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Now I wish the new movie featured a scene implying a man performing oral sex on one of the women. I mean, fairness and all.

Me too.

 

[Pauln6]

Just saw it. Really enjoyed it, although I think it might be over-hyped as a feminist revolution. Almost all of the supporting cast, especially the police and army extras were men.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Just saw it. Really enjoyed it, although I think it might be over-hyped as a feminist revolution. Almost all of the supporting cast, especially the police and army extras were men.

That's so we could see the women triumph over them.



I kid, I kid....

 

[Mudd]

Today’s news: Ghostbusters ‘tanks’, ‘stumbles’ with 53% drop in its second week.

Presumably that’s a bad performance compared to other action movies in their second week then?

Let’s check…

• Captain America: Civil War: -59.5%
  
• Dark Knight: -52%
  
• Amazing Spider Man: -61%

Oh, and for an example of an actual ‘tanking’:

• Batman vs Superman: -69%

Now, let’s examine all the reporting last week that Ghostbusters was going to struggle because of its first week multiplier against its budget…

Ghostbusters first weekend US figures: $46m
It had a $144m budget, so in its first week it made 32% of that.
Descriptions: ‘Lacklustre’, ‘problematic’, ‘will haunt Sony’

Star Trek Beyond first weekend US figures: $59.6m
It had a $189m budget, so in its first week it made 30% of its budget.
Reporting: ‘Dominates’, ‘wins big’

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