Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).

[Trekker4747]

For those playing the Internet homegame:

Disliking a movie based off of one trailer: Wrong.

Liking/Loving a movie based off of one trailer: Right.

 

[Myko]

Positivity trumps negativity. Not sure what's wrong with that.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I have no idea what that film even is, but it won't take away from my point which is that an acting leopard can change its metaphorical spots.

You listed that Bill Murray's previous film was The Razor's Edge as if that one drama offset his comedic career, yet ignored that Sigourney's previous film was a comedy when mentioning she was a dramatic actress. Just seemed to me like you were being biased in making your point.

 

[Amaris]

For those playing the Internet homegame:

Disliking a movie based off of one trailer: Wrong.

Liking/Loving a movie based off of one trailer: Right.

Because it's easy to say something is shit without ever seeing it. When you hope a movie is going to be great, you're investing a little bit of your optimism and effort into it. When you say it's going to suck, you just don't care, so why should we care? Some people say they care so much they think it will still suck, well apparently such persons don't care enough to see it before saying it will be awful.

 

[jaime]

You listed that Bill Murray's previous film was The Razor's Edge as if that one drama offset his comedic career, yet ignored that Sigourney's previous film was a comedy when mentioning she was a dramatic actress. Just seemed to me like you were being biased in making your point.

I had no idea what Sigourney's previous film was tbh, and Razors Edge is related to him doing Ghostbusters due to behind the scenes tacit agreements (so jad heard of it...but also, I actually watched the thing years ago because I quite like the era.) I also wasn't suggesting for a moment that it offsets his comedy career, especially at this point, just offsets the 'bill is a comedy actor, ergo ghostbusters is a comedy only' logic. As he is an actor, who even at that point, was doing straight drama as well as comedy. The fact he is doing it literally immediately after only makes that more apparent.

It's the same when you hear Sigourney being discussed in relation to ghostbusters. She's seen as the actress from Alien etc by the producers on the film. Was the other comedy filmed prior to Gb?

 

[Christopher]

Because it's easy to say something is shit without ever seeing it. When you hope a movie is going to be great, you're investing a little bit of your optimism and effort into it.

Yes. Hope is not assumption. It's just keeping an open mind. It's giving the benefit of the doubt. And that's important. If you assume the best of somebody and you're wrong, then they're the one at fault. If you assume the worst of somebody and you're wrong, then you're the one at fault. So giving others the benefit of the doubt isn't just about them, it's about ourselves and what kind of people we want to be.

 

[jaime]

Because it's easy to say something is shit without ever seeing it. When you hope a movie is going to be great, you're investing a little bit of your optimism and effort into it. When you say it's going to suck, you just don't care, so why should we care? Some people say they care so much they think it will still suck, well apparently such persons don't care enough to see it before saying it will be awful.

We've just got better at cynicism as information comes out:
New ghostbusters woohoo!
It's a reboot...hmm..That's worrying (if you don't like reboots or recent reboots) but hey New Ghostbusters woohoo!
It's a deliberately genderflipped reboot and noise is being made about this! (loses some people, gains other, plenty of publicity, but now politics is partly in control of a creative process, which may lead to worry...)
Trailers come out, there's outcry, some things are great other things not so much.....(now the positivity is really wobbling, because there's even more variables in the mix....depending on how much you find to like/dislike)
Information, and especially trailers, on hoped for films can be a double edged sword. (prometheus....predators....star wars...jurassic world)
They either reinforce positivity or enhance the doubts.
Ultimately, yes, the film is still gonna go either way and be the ultimate decider, but with each bit of information released, the initial excitement is going to be tempered by added uncertainty and thats going to vary person by person especially when making a franchise film with an existing fanbase.

 

[jaime]

Yes. Hope is not assumption. It's just keeping an open mind. It's giving the benefit of the doubt. And that's important. If you assume the best of somebody and you're wrong, then they're the one at fault. If you assume the worst of somebody and you're wrong, then you're the one at fault. So giving others the benefit of the doubt isn't just about them, it's about ourselves and what kind of people we want to be.

The great thing here is, I know I am going to watch the movie regardless. So I could end up being pleasantly surprised by its greatness after all is said and done. It also has the advantage of me being famous amongst friends and family for liking films that are shall we say, less than popular. (though I do worry when Netflix starts telling me it thinks I will like waterworld.)
It does suffer the problem of being a remake to an extent therefore asking to be compared to a well loved original every step of the way. But that's the risk the studio chose to take.

 

[Tosk]

I liked Waterworld.

 

[jaime]

I liked Waterworld.

Don't tell anyone but so did I.

I just don't like Netflix telling me I would. Cos it's one thing to have friends say 'you like terrible films' and another to have an online service use metrics to do it.

 

[Tosk]

Your secret is safe with me.

 

[Corran Horn]

I liked Waterworld.

I liked The Postman.

 

[jaime]

I liked The Postman.

Should we have meetings and a step program?

 

[BillJ]

I liked Waterworld.

There's a special place in Hell for you.

 

[jaime]

If they genderflip waterworld, there would no doubt be an irony given the alleged rumour how much money was spent on that film taking out female genitals. In a purely humorous sense...I would not expect the female lead to actually strip naked.
Though Costner probably would. The world remembers Prince Of Thieves.

 

[Timby]

For those playing the Internet homegame:

Disliking a movie based off of one trailer: Wrong.

Liking/Loving a movie based off of one trailer: Right.

Correction: Disliking a movie based off of one trailer: Misguided at best and moronic at worst.

Refusing to judge a movie in advance based off of one trailer: Being a reasonable person.

 

[jaime]

Honestly I don't know why these companies make trailers. Apparently we aren't allowed to use them to form any kind of opinion or work out whether we like a film or not, so as advertising they are useless.
Maybe we could just have sort of train timetables for films, would save so much time and money. We can guess if we like them based on their titles and what time of year they release them.
As it stands, apparently one can be moronic if one uses an advert to judge whether something is to an individuals taste or not. Still, it's good to have sonething flashing on the screen while people find their seats I suppose.

 

[Timby]

I just watched the trailer for the Ghostbusters 2016 discussion and I can confidently say with certainty that the full movie discussion will be absolutely horrible.

 

[jaime]

I just watched the trailer for the Ghostbusters 2016 discussion and I can confidently say with certainty that the full movie discussion will be absolutely horrible.

Well, you never know. We might be pleasantly surprised by the film and the discussion. You shouldnt let a trailer tell you whether you will like or dislike something.....Oh hang on.

Seriously. I was excited to see this film, even given the mental politicking about it on either side of the divide.
My only downer on it was that I don't tend to like reboots, and am very sad we didn't get the actual ghostbusters 3.

The advertising materials so far have not allayed my misgivings and have given me new ones.

I can safely say it's a bad trailer, and has left me thinking the film probably won't be any good. I hope to be surprised come blu ray time. In a good way. A good trailer would have made me think the film will be amazing, and count down till blu ray time. Other opinions may vary in their reasons. It's safe to say my opinion is hardly an outlier on this trailer or film.
Either way I hope for a late November early December Blu Ray release, and really hope for a better trailer (maybe there are shot for trailer sequences in this and they are the bits I don't like. I doubt it though.) So I can experience the warm glow of positive anticipation as opposed to wishing the video game was the last new ghost busters thing.

 

[Aldo]

So I can experience the warm glow of positive anticipation as opposed to wishing the video game was the last new ghost busters thing.

You had me until this part. This sentence smacks of the "I don't like it so it shouldn't exist," mentality.

Just because it exists does not mean the original movies (or cartoon series) are disappearing, you still have those to enjoy. This is something new for other people to enjoy.