Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).
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Both did receive a certain amount of ridicule. However, you have to consider that the fans trusted Nolan to deliver on a good Batman film. Burton they weren't so sure of, but at least he had more of a proven track record than Paul Fieg at directing fantasy films.
Yes. I stand corrected on thinking it was a 100% original idea, but at the very least, it was never a well known concept before 1984. Not many people went into Ghostbusters thinking "this is just like that slapstick show from 1975". With the 2016 Ghostbusters, it is pretty much a carbon copy of the 1984 film with the genders swapped, and more obvious gags.
As for why the cartoon was The Real Ghostbusters, that is because Filmation got their cartoon out first, and technically Filmation owned the name. Columbia has to get permission from Filmation to call their movie Ghostbusters.
I'm not understanding how this is germane or relevant, considering Ghostbusters is a comedy with sci-fi trim.
Read the script, have you? Seen the entire film?
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Ivan Reitman's only fantasy film before Ghostbusters was 1973's Cannibal Girls, a horror-comedy that reportedly wasn't very funny. So you can't really judge from past history.
It's a remake. Naturally it's got a lot in common with its source. But I disagree with the reductionist "genders swapped" assessment. It's not like this is a movie about Petra Venkman, Rachel Stantz, Edith Spengler, Winona Zeddmore, and Gene Melnitz. They've done something fairly rare in a remake, which is creating an entirely new cast of characters to carry the story. The fact that they're gender-swapped is the most superficial element of the film's novelty, and anyone whose analysis stops there is merely betraying their own superficiality. How many other remakes/reboots have gone for totally new characters instead of namesakes or variants on the originals? There's The Fly, which replaced Andre and Helene Delambre with Seth Brundle and Veronica Quaife. But I can't think of any others at the moment. The remake of Cat People changed the main characters' last names, but their first names are nearly the same, so it doesn't really count.
As I explained in my response to you yesterday (post #1714). Although Filmation's Ghostbusters (as it's retroactively known) only beat The Real Ghostbusters to the air by five days. They were essentially simultaneous premieres. But TRG adopted its title out of awareness that Filmation was making their own cartoon. (For a while, Filmation's show was going to be called The Original Ghostbusters, but that was dropped by the premiere, presumably because TRG's own name change made it unnecessary.)
Slight off topic, but I used to watch that Filmation show when it was on. My best friend explained to me that they were the kids of the original Ghostbusters. Of course I took this to mean that they were the offspring of the guys in the film and not the guys from the original Ghostbuster's tv show.
I enjoyed that cartoon - I remember having a slicker book from it. (back when those existed)
You're kidding right? The rabid fan base is almost always the group with the strongest negative reactions in these kinds of situation. All they ever seem to want is something exactly like the original, and when the new version is different they act like the world is ending.
I'm still kind of shocked that I have actually had a more positive reaction to the trailer than most people. I was expecting to hate it, but actually found mildly interesting.
I can't help but wonder what the reaction to this would have been like if it wasn't Ghostbusters.
That's the international trailer that was posted above.
As a defender of this film, I will admit now all the comedy is hitting for me yet (Leslie Jones' character missing the stage dive and asking if it's a "race thing" seems odd). But the rest of what I'm seeing I love. I love seeing the new Ecto-1, I really like that their base of operations is a Chinese restaurant, and I think the plot looks interesting, if a bit derivative of the original film, but you know what? That's perfectly fine, this is a reboot after all, I wouldn't expect it not to feel like the original at least a little bit. Also, after seeing 'Spy' the other day, I'm convinced Melissa McCarthy can be cool when she wants to be, and that shot of her punching the ghost with what I can only tell is a ptroton charged brass knuckle is actually really cool.
I've seen around the net (and here too) that the Ghostbusters fanbase is going to reject this film. While I must speak up and say as a fan of the original, I am openly embracing this film, and I've noticed a lot of people here who are fans are as well. But in the end, does it really matter? Maybe most of the original fanbase will reject this film for whatever reason, that's fine. It can pick up new fans in the process, and those other fans can stick with their two movies and cartoon show.
As a defender of this film, I will admit now all the comedy is hitting for me yet (Leslie Jones' character missing the stage dive and asking if it's a "race thing" seems odd). But the rest of what I'm seeing I love. I love seeing the new Ecto-1, I really like that their base of operations is a Chinese restaurant, and I think the plot looks interesting, if a bit derivative of the original film, but you know what? That's perfectly fine, this is a reboot after all, I wouldn't expect it not to feel like the original at least a little bit. Also, after seeing 'Spy' the other day, I'm convinced Melissa McCarthy can be cool when she wants to be, and that shot of her punching the ghost with what I can only tell is a ptroton charged brass knuckle is actually really cool.
I've seen around the net (and here too) that the Ghostbusters fanbase is going to reject this film. While I must speak up and say as a fan of the original, I am openly embracing this film, and I've noticed a lot of people here who are fans are as well. But in the end, does it really matter? Maybe most of the original fanbase will reject this film for whatever reason, that's fine. It can pick up new fans in the process, and those other fans can stick with their two movies and cartoon show.
I've been a fan of McCarthy since Gilmore Girls, and I have been supporting her projects ever since. I think not only she's really funny but she's in really interesting projects thus far. Teaser sometimes can turn people off, but another trailer will come and it may or may not sell the piece.
I'm not too interested if it's connected to the original, if if is goody, but I like seeing McCarthy's films and I'm giving this movie a shot.
I was hoping the cast of Brides Maids were transplanted on this project because it was cry-balling funny; the chemistry within the characters were great. If it's successful, we may get a new cartoon.
I'm not too interested if it's connected to the original, if if is goody, but I like seeing McCarthy's films and I'm giving this movie a shot.
I was hoping the cast of Brides Maids were transplanted on this project because it was cry-balling funny; the chemistry within the characters were great. If it's successful, we may get a new cartoon.
I didn't like that trailer as much. It had more of the lazy comedy I had expected the movie to have before I saw the first trailer (that female ghost logo gag was horrible 
). I'm still cautiously interested in it, but its definitely looking a bit more like the generic comedy you'd expect to see from the cast/crew.
). I'm still cautiously interested in it, but its definitely looking a bit more like the generic comedy you'd expect to see from the cast/crew.
She didn't "miss" -- the crowd parted and let her fall to the floor, rather than choosing to catch her as they did the other Ghostbuster. So I can understand her wondering if it was a rejection on racial grounds, although I'm puzzled that she'd ask if it was "a lady thing" given that the other Ghostbuster was successful in crowd-surfing. I would've expected her to ask if it was about her weight/size.
I don't think we've really gotten any sense of the plot yet. We know it's recapping the premise of three scientists and a layperson uniting to fight an outbreak of supernatural phenomena using makeshift technology, but the only hint we have so far of what it is they're actually dealing with is the reference to someone using a device to amplify those phenomena, which is definitely not something we've seen before.
I seem to recall that some of the early plot leaks involved the Ghostbusters being a clandestine operation with military/government backing, a bit more Men in Black than Ghostbusters, but that doesn't seem evident in the trailer.
There's always a purist segment of the fanbase that rejects any new variation on a franchise, and they always make tons of noise and claim to represent the entirety of "true" fandom, doing their best to deny or drown out alternative viewpoints. They're the most obnoxious, bullying part of fandom and their views should not be taken seriously.
And as I've said, people always make these doom-and-gloom predictions about movies that haven't come out yet, including movies that fandom ends up loving and embracing. It is ridiculous to pretend to know the audience response to a film that's still four months away from coming out. As Sherlock Holmes was fond of saying, "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
Yeah, I know what you mean. I saw places that went like this...
- Black people can't be smart?!! The movie is racist!
- You only hate it because you're sexist! Misogynist patriarchy!
- Feminist propaganda! Get women in STEM!
Geez, and that's not even close to the worst of it. At least, here, we talked about scenes in the trailer, whether we like or hate it.
Nothing wrong with a little eye candy. Us guys get some in movies, so can the ladies.
Although, I can guess who the movie is more targeted to.Maybe the villain will be a human possessed by a ghost.
Not seeing the funny either, but at least I can understand the Australian trailer, unlike the Russian or Ukraine one I posted.
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Do you find it odd for a Ghostbusters movie? Because it's pretty much Leslie Jones' shtick so if they're tailoring the role to her it seems to be in her wheelhouse.
The 'was it the wig or the hat' was funny to me.
i'm going to see the film regardless of what anyone says. i grew up with the cartoon series. GB2 was the first non animated film i saw in a theater. i loved Extreme Ghostbusters. all this talk about negative fan reaction is a bit silly. especially if they think it will affect the box office. clearly, people have not learned from Trek 09.
I meant to say not all the comedy was hitting for me. But thinking about it, I think we're supposed to feel like Leslie Jones' characters sensibilities is at odds with the rest of the cast, since she is the outsider. Maybe by the end of the film she ends up gelling with everyone during the scene where they have to confront the evil.
That's my favorite part of the trailer.
I thought the 'lady' line was just an obscure way of doing exactly that. As in, the one character was more 'lady-like' and 'dainty' than the other. At least, that's the only way it seemed to make any sense.
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