Ghostbusters 2016: Talk about the movie(s).

[Sgt. Pepper]

Can we call this cock-blocked? Sony has plans to do a male led Ghostbusters reboot alongside their female led version.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/09/sony-plans-male-driven-ghostbusters/

Not so much cock-block as let's-bleed-money-out-of-this-franchise-until-it's-dry.

It kind of feels like the ultimate "be careful what you wish for" scenario.

"You've been saying you want more Ghostbusters for 25 goddamn years? Here! Here, have all the fucking Ghostbusters! Have them until you choke on them, you fucks!"

Not everything needs to be a goddamn "cinematic universe" or whatever. This whole thing sounds like executives and marketing looking at Marvel's success without any fucking clue as to why it works beyond "lots of movies."

Let's just abandon all pretense and go nuts. Let's have a rebooted 1990s Kevin Costner Cinematic Universe featuring a Costnerverse All-Star Team-Up in which Robin Hood, Wyatt Earp, the Postman and the Waterworld Mariner team up to protect Whitney Houston from a time-traveling Eliot Ness.

This is horrible. I didn't want to see the Sheboot and I don't want to see this. I'm sick of reboots and I wish they'd just leave Ghostbusters alone.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

This whole thing sounds like executives and marketing looking at Marvel's success without any fucking clue as to why it works beyond "lots of movies."

It also sounds like the Star Wars template (also Disney). We're set to get a Star Wars film out every year or so now.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

This whole thing sounds like executives and marketing looking at Marvel's success without any fucking clue as to why it works beyond "lots of movies."

It also sounds like the Star Wars template (also Disney). We're set to get a Star Wars film out every year or so now.

I wonder how Akyroyd would like a Blues Brothers Cenematic Universe? He seems to hold that dear to his heart.

 

[Nerys Myk]

His real passion is Doctor Detroit II.

 

[Reverend]

This whole thing sounds like executives and marketing looking at Marvel's success without any fucking clue as to why it works beyond "lots of movies."

It also sounds like the Star Wars template (also Disney). We're set to get a Star Wars film out every year or so now.

I wonder how Akyroyd would like a Blues Brothers Cenematic Universe? He seems to hold that dear to his heart.

^Then why did he make Blues Brothers 2000? *shudders*

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

His real passion is Doctor Detroit II.

Had to look it up. It looks like Will Ferrell doing Hary Carey doing Dan Akyroyd.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

This whole thing sounds like executives and marketing looking at Marvel's success without any fucking clue as to why it works beyond "lots of movies."

It also sounds like the Star Wars template (also Disney). We're set to get a Star Wars film out every year or so now.

I wonder how Akyroyd would like a Blues Brothers Cenematic Universe? He seems to hold that dear to his heart.

He'd probably be quite pleased.
http://screenrant.com/blues-brothers-cartoon-broadway-radio-books-web-series-scott-164278/

 

[Owain Taggart]

Let's just abandon all pretense and go nuts. Let's have a rebooted 1990s Kevin Costner Cinematic Universe featuring a Costnerverse All-Star Team-Up in which Robin Hood, Wyatt Earp, the Postman and the Waterworld Mariner team up to protect Whitney Houston from a time-traveling Eliot Ness.

I almost want to see this, just to see how bad it would actually be...

But yeah, I agree, we don't need another cinematic universe. At this rate, they'll beat the horse before it's even left the starting line. They need to take the reigns, take a step back and say, "whoa, Ok, maybe this is a bad idea."

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Besides Marvel there's the young adult book movies such as Harry Potter and Hunger Games popping out left and right and making big bucks. There doesn't seem much incentive to not pursue that model.

 

[Cyke101]

Besides Marvel there's the young adult book movies such as Harry Potter and Hunger Games popping out left and right and making big bucks. There doesn't seem much incentive to not pursue that model.

I'd say a key difference there is that Harry Potter and the Hunger Games tend to be sequels that focus on a single protagonist. With the MCU, you have multiple protagonists in a shared universe; some of those protagonists haven't even met yet. So Harry Potter still has a contained universe, but Marvel is expanding.

 

[Amaris]

It kind of feels like the ultimate "be careful what you wish for" scenario.

"You've been saying you want more Ghostbusters for 25 goddamn years? Here! Here, have all the fucking Ghostbusters! Have them until you choke on them, you fucks!"

Not everything needs to be a goddamn "cinematic universe" or whatever. This whole thing sounds like executives and marketing looking at Marvel's success without any fucking clue as to why it works beyond "lots of movies."

Let's just abandon all pretense and go nuts. Let's have a rebooted 1990s Kevin Costner Cinematic Universe featuring a Costnerverse All-Star Team-Up in which Robin Hood, Wyatt Earp, the Postman and the Waterworld Mariner team up to protect Whitney Houston from a time-traveling Eliot Ness.

I want to see this happen. Not saying it will be mind blowing, but... I want to see this happen.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I'd say a key difference there is that Harry Potter and the Hunger Games tend to be sequels that focus on a single protagonist. With the MCU, you have multiple protagonists in a shared universe; some of those protagonists haven't even met yet. So Harry Potter still has a contained universe, but Marvel is expanding.

Yeah, and within the context of Marvel, it does make sense, because at a certain point, you're going to have these different superheroes working together, and when they're not, you're going to wonder why, ie spiderman, which then breaks the illusion to a certain extent.

With Ghostbusters on the other hand, there's no reason for any kind of similar arrangement to take place, and any kind of effort to do so will feel forceful and rather desperate. Franchises could work, but there's no reason why any of them should know each other.

 

[Saul]

This Cracked article makes a good case for why wanting a Ghostbusters franchise is kind of ridiculous. The Ghostbusters section (as is the rest of the article) is an interesting read but this part in particular stands out to me:

Let me ask you all a question, and feel free to write your answer down or just speak it aloud to whatever room you happen to be sitting in -- what was it about Ghostbusters that made that movie so great?

Was it the rich, sprawling mythology of the ghostbusting universe?

Or was it Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, and Harold Ramis teaming up to make a comedy in the prime of their careers?

Considering that I love 'The Real Ghostbusters' to fucking bits I'm gonna answer the former.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Besides Marvel there's the young adult book movies such as Harry Potter and Hunger Games popping out left and right and making big bucks. There doesn't seem much incentive to not pursue that model.

I'd say a key difference there is that Harry Potter and the Hunger Games tend to be sequels that focus on a single protagonist. With the MCU, you have multiple protagonists in a shared universe; some of those protagonists haven't even met yet. So Harry Potter still has a contained universe, but Marvel is expanding.

What I'm getting at is that there have been several successful franchises that have been pumping out sequels once a year so it would seem financially sensible to pursue a similar model. I don't think anyone has recently failed with a saturation approach. Even Stargate got 15 seasons of television before it petered out. Stepping outside genre franchises look at Law and Order, CSI, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and so on. Maybe not always critical darlings but they've made a pretty penny or two.

 

[Gaith]

Let's just abandon all pretense and go nuts. Let's have a rebooted 1990s Kevin Costner Cinematic Universe featuring a Costnerverse All-Star Team-Up in which Robin Hood, Wyatt Earp, the Postman and the Waterworld Mariner team up to protect Whitney Houston from a time-traveling Eliot Ness.

In fairness to Hollywood's franchise thinking, that does sound a lot more interesting than Three Days to Kill, McFarland USA, and Black or White put together...

... Speaking of which, any major studios want to buy my The Jane Austen Strike Force idea?!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Let's just abandon all pretense and go nuts. Let's have a rebooted 1990s Kevin Costner Cinematic Universe featuring a Costnerverse All-Star Team-Up in which Robin Hood, Wyatt Earp, the Postman and the Waterworld Mariner team up to protect Whitney Houston from a time-traveling Eliot Ness.

I want to see this happen. Not saying it will be mind blowing, but... I want to see this happen.

If there's time travel and Costner involved, I'd rather have a commando unit going back in time and removing him from every film he ever appeared in.

Or, failing that, removing his Thirteen Days dialect coach from the space-time continuum.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Let's just abandon all pretense and go nuts. Let's have a rebooted 1990s Kevin Costner Cinematic Universe featuring a Costnerverse All-Star Team-Up in which Robin Hood, Wyatt Earp, the Postman and the Waterworld Mariner team up to protect Whitney Houston from a time-traveling Eliot Ness.

I almost want to see this, just to see how bad it would actually be...

But yeah, I agree, we don't need another cinematic universe. At this rate, they'll beat the horse before it's even left the starting line. They need to take the reigns, take a step back and say, "whoa, Ok, maybe this is a bad idea."

Why did John Dunbar get skipped over?

 

[Timby]

This Cracked article makes a good case for why wanting a Ghostbusters franchise is kind of ridiculous. The Ghostbusters section (as is the rest of the article) is an interesting read but this part in particular stands out to me:

Let me ask you all a question, and feel free to write your answer down or just speak it aloud to whatever room you happen to be sitting in -- what was it about Ghostbusters that made that movie so great?

Was it the rich, sprawling mythology of the ghostbusting universe?

Or was it Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, and Harold Ramis teaming up to make a comedy in the prime of their careers?

Considering that I love 'The Real Ghostbusters' to fucking bits I'm gonna answer the former.

So you don't love Ghostbusters, you love the cartoon adaptation of it that was designed to sell hojillions of toys.

 

[Saul]

I love Ghostbusters too. But the animated series was what kept Ghostbusters in the public eye. It was the cartoon that was on TV every week and the merchandise that came out of it that kept the interest. Ghostbusters 2 even changes Janine and Slimer to match 'The Real Ghotbusters'. IDW comics also take a lot from the animated series.

 

[Reverend]

This Cracked article makes a good case for why wanting a Ghostbusters franchise is kind of ridiculous. The Ghostbusters section (as is the rest of the article) is an interesting read but this part in particular stands out to me:

Considering that I love 'The Real Ghostbusters' to fucking bits I'm gonna answer the former.

So you don't love Ghostbusters, you love the cartoon adaptation of it that was designed to sell hojillions of toys.

I don't think those are mutually exclusive opinions.