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Georgiou

When the S31 series was announced I was very much against the idea and found the character utterly irredeemable (and I still think they picked a character conceived as WAY too evil). I think they've done well this season to give her a conscience, albeit a very twisted one.
I think in Georgiou there is an opportunity to show how human beings are capable of working even against their upbringing to become better. I'm hoping S31 continues on the trajectory begun here in Season 3.
 
Someone here summed up the issues here asking why Osyrra is expected to answer for her crimes when Georgiou isn't?

In this universe, Georgiou has not committed any crimes.

And i actually now believe she has changed for the better. That final scene with her and Burnham sealed the deal. Old Georgiou would have laughed it off.
 
KEVIN: No, no, no, no. You don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Husnock, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Husnock everywhere. Are eleven thousand people worth fifty billion? Is the love of a woman worth the destruction of an entire species? This is the sin I tried so hard to keep you from learning now. Why I wanted to chase you from Rana.
PICARD: We're not qualified to be your judges. We have no law to fit your crime. You're free to return to the planet and to make Rishon live again.
 
KEVIN: No, no, no, no. You don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Husnock, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Husnock everywhere. Are eleven thousand people worth fifty billion? Is the love of a woman worth the destruction of an entire species? This is the sin I tried so hard to keep you from learning now. Why I wanted to chase you from Rana.
PICARD: We're not qualified to be your judges. We have no law to fit your crime. You're free to return to the planet and to make Rishon live again.
That's a very different Picard speech.
 
Ultimately, Carl turned out to be The Judge. The person who can look at different realities, can gauge evidence of change, and can weigh different factors.
 
Yeoh is great. Too bad they didn't give me a character I could root for. I feel icky every time I see her on screen, because the screenwriters are trying to normalize a character who committed massive atrocities as her backstory.

I really can't disagree with that. I think my only reasoning is that Discovery is such a train wreck so far divorced from Star Trek that I view her just as an amusing character in her own right.

A Buffy villain... oh god take me back in time and let's put her as a Buffy villain. Brilliant.

As a Star Trek character, much harder. And she's more Dukat like. And even with him they had to say "stop liking him!" and turned him unambiguously bad.
 
Yeah, people loved Dukat and Kork and Garek, but these were not nice people. They committed violent acts and yet are regarded very well by the audience. I guess not seeking the atrocities on screen makes a difference? :shrug:

I'll give you Garek, but you know Dukat was supposed to be the bad guy, right? I'm not sure who Kork is...

KEVIN: No, no, no, no. You don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Husnock, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Husnock everywhere. Are eleven thousand people worth fifty billion? Is the love of a woman worth the destruction of an entire species? This is the sin I tried so hard to keep you from learning now. Why I wanted to chase you from Rana.
PICARD: We're not qualified to be your judges. We have no law to fit your crime. You're free to return to the planet and to make Rishon live again.

I always found it off that Federation law didn't cover genocide...
 
I'll give you Garek, but you know Dukat was supposed to be the bad guy, right? I'm not sure who Kork is...
That was supposed to be Kor. Edited now.

Whether Dukat was supposed to be the bad guy or not people still liked him. Our heroes still worked with him.
 
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