George and Gracie

[RobertScorpio]

I wish one of the modern TREKS (TNG-DS9-VOYAGE) would have made mention of what ever happened to them..did they start a whole knew family? Maybe they did, I don't know...but at least some mention in passing would have been cool...I mean, VOYAGE HOME was a big hit in its day

Rob
Scorpio

 

[Therin of Andor]

I wish one of the modern TREKS (TNG-DS9-VOYAGE) would have made mention of what ever happened to them..did they start a whole knew family?

You need the great DC Comics graphic novel by Chris Claremont, "Debt of Honor" (1992), in which Gracie's baby is born...

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/c/chris-claremont/debt-of-honor.htm

 

[Nerdius Maximus]

I wish one of the modern TREKS (TNG-DS9-VOYAGE) would have made mention of what ever happened to them..did they start a whole knew family? Maybe they did, I don't know...but at least some mention in passing would have been cool...I mean, VOYAGE HOME was a big hit in its day

Rob
Scorpio

Sadly, they divorced soon after the events of TVH. George went off to starfleet academy to pursue his newfound dream of commanding his own starship, leaving Gracie to raise the baby on her own.

 

[zephramc]

^^^Nothing pisses me off more than a deadbeat whale who deserts his family.

 

[Eric Cheung]

I believe Gracie died early and George lived to be 100 only a few years before Bob Hope the Hammerhead also died at 100.

 

[Trekker4747]

^^^Nothing pisses me off more than a deadbeat whale who deserts his family.

Well, to be fair, this was before Starfleet allowed orca families aboard starships.

 

[cardinal biggles]

So I'm just curious — did Starfleet send other ships back in time to abduct more whales? That's a pretty limited gene pool they've got there: George, Gracie, et fils.

 

[Luke Lightsaber]

But Gracie was pregnant.

 

[David cgc]

They probably have enough genetic technology that they could add in some more variety from whatever old humpback samples they had on file or from similar species.

That, or because they really only needed the one whale that one time, they let them inbreed to death over the next several years.

 

[Trekker4747]

I'm not sure how big the risks are for genetic problems in animals who "inbreed." It's possible that Starfleet/Earth technology could refine their genetic code to "more perfect" forms and reduce/eliminate the risks of genetic mishaps with inbreeding. (Which isn't as big of a problem as many suspect it is, even in humans.)

Making George and Gracie have perfect genetic codes would've pretty much turned them into an Adam and Eve.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I'm not sure how big the risks are for genetic problems in animals who "inbreed." It's possible that Starfleet/Earth technology could refine their genetic code to "more perfect" forms and reduce/eliminate the risks of genetic mishaps with inbreeding.

The novelization mentions that genetics and cloning advancements will probably mean the whales be repopulated.

 

[Mike Farley]

As soon as the Probe was out of range Starfleet killed the whales to avoid temporal contamination. Gillian Taylor too. She wasn't going to her own science vessel, she was going to her own execution.

 

[David cgc]

How can something from the past screw up the timeline?

 

[cultcross]

Don't see genetics being a problem - its pretty common in the animal kingdom to see inbreeding which would make a Cornish hamlet blush. The reason its a problem in humans is our pathetically small gene pool - European humans are believed to have been reduced to no more than 1000 by the last ice age. Which means two randomly selected humans of similar continental background are much more likely to share genetic sequences and hence recessive genetic abnormalities. Make it two family members and the situation gets exponentially worse. Two randomly selected members of almost any other mammal species would be much, much more unlikely to share any recessive abnormalities, and as such their offspring, even of closely related animals, would not express them.

Still, realistically, two individuals repopulating a species is a bit of a stretch, and would probably need at least some artificial insemination from human scientists.

 

[Therin of Andor]

probably need at least some artificial insemination from human scientists.

Using their own sperm?

 

[Trekker4747]

probably need at least some artificial insemination from human scientists.

Using their own sperm?

Clearly they should've gotten sperm whales for their repopulation experiment.

 

[RobertScorpio]

^^^Nothing pisses me off more than a deadbeat whale who deserts his family.

Well, to be fair, this was before Starfleet allowed orca families aboard starships.

And they say STAR TREK is a progressive show..bullshit!

Rob
Scorpio

 

[Kryton]

What is everyone in here blubbering about?

 

[phenyx2]

Still, realistically, two individuals repopulating a species is a bit of a stretch, and would probably need at least some artificial insemination from human scientists.

I'm quite sure the great Captain Kirk...had enough seed to go around...to help Gracie out!

 

[Jon1701]

Well, if Horta can command a Starship, why not whales?

http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Horta