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Generations deleted scene - bridge of Enterprise-B

Thanks for that pointer. Good old Trekcore!

At the very bottom of the page, check out "ALTERNATE ENDING II". Despite the low picture & sound quality, that is probably the best idea how the first cut finished. Much better editing than anything among Generations' DVD extras. As a fan, I'd love for someday them to put back footage, even as a supplementary Disc 2 version... The possiblities rival what was achieved with Alien 3 and Superman II The Donner Cut.
 
Braga talks about it on the commentary at the moment just before the transition to the 24th century. He says that they had a beat where they go to the bridge to think about what happened, and to confirm that he was gone, but, as he says, it was "as effective as this."
 
Thanks for the info, but i don't even know what that is..:(

google VLC media player, and download it - you can play almost anything without worrying about codecs.

I wasn't all that keen on that scene, watching it - Checkov's reaction seems almost cheesy. I prefer the final edit, myself - more grandiose.
 
Now that I've watched the deleted scene, I can say that I'm glad I've seen it, but I'm also glad it wasn't in the film.

It wouldn't have "fit."

I think the scene, of Scotty, Chekov, and Harriman looking out the gash, as the Enterprise-B flies by the camera, is really all the ending the prologue needs. It makes a nice visual segue into the next portion of the film.

Kirk's line about "cheating death together," I remain convinced should have been in the film.
 
Now that I've seen it I can understand why they cut it. It really doesn't add anything to the movie. I don't need to see Chekov cry over the death of Kirk (he just can't be the whiner of TOS anymore). Somehow that just doesn't feel right. Of course I like every opportunity to see Doohan and Koenig act again. But not if it's such a feckless, ill-written scene ...

Also, I think the original segue from the 23rd century to the 24th is rather strong. This scene would disrupt the flow of it, IMHO.

Anyway, nice to finally have seen it. ;)
 
Koenig stated in a couple interviews at the time that his brother had died just a bit before the filming of GEN, and his crying in that scene was brought on by his thinking of him as he filmed it.

Sir Rhosis
 
Never knew that about his brother.
Any more opinions on the scene itself--not how it would have played in the larger movie?
 
Visually and emotionally, I think it was a wise decision on the director and editor to end the Ent-B sequence where they did. It lingered on the situation and faded nicely into the 24th century. The bit on the bridge is superfluous.
 
Thanks for the info, but i don't even know what that is..:(

google VLC media player, and download it - you can play almost anything without worrying about codecs.

I wasn't all that keen on that scene, watching it - Checkov's reaction seems almost cheesy. I prefer the final edit, myself - more grandiose.
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I don't really like the way VLC takes over all my previous settings.
 
Why do all these deleted scenes exist in such terrible quality anyway?

Because they've never been put through the fine tuning of post production, primarily; and the ones that make it to release (that weren't officially released) are probably a copy of a copy of a copy of a bit of film from a rough edit, changing formats each time. Officially released 'deleted scenes' usually are at least similar quality to the finished footage, albeit often with special effects missing.
A lot of it depends heavily on how late into production the scene was cut.
 
Why do all these deleted scenes exist in such terrible quality anyway?
Well, why do you think they deleted these scenes? We can't go from neat crisp Panavision to a choppily pixellated image and then back again in a movie; people will think the projector broke and complain to the theater owners. We're just lucky it's almost always useless scenes that suffer these visual quality problems.
 
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