General Trek Questions and Observations
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I thought it was usually the other way around, general-purpose inventions were quickly applied to demands in that area when they became available to the public in sufficient measure (photography, film, internet). Perhaps 'erotic' inventions that went on to a much more general use exist as well, but one doesn't come to my mind right now.
I think sonic showers still use water as a cleaning media. https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp/themotionpicture0981.jpg (Note the dripping water sheen on her shoulders.)
A fine mist is applied into the shower chamber to coat your body with warm/hot water (possibly conditioned with a soap-like additive), and the shower makes an energy field that sends ultrasonic waves into the water droplets on your skin which removes dirt and body greases off your body. Insert a possible rinse cycle. The last stage removes the water either by further ultrasonic evaporation action (like an ultrasonic humidifier) and/or simply blow warm air to suck the humidified air and excess water into a floor grate. A complete shower in a minute or so which uses very little water and leaves your body squeaky clean.
A fine mist is applied into the shower chamber to coat your body with warm/hot water (possibly conditioned with a soap-like additive), and the shower makes an energy field that sends ultrasonic waves into the water droplets on your skin which removes dirt and body greases off your body. Insert a possible rinse cycle. The last stage removes the water either by further ultrasonic evaporation action (like an ultrasonic humidifier) and/or simply blow warm air to suck the humidified air and excess water into a floor grate. A complete shower in a minute or so which uses very little water and leaves your body squeaky clean.
I wonder where Joseph Sisko got the fish and meat for his restaurant -he didn't consider replicated vegetables good enough so why would he accept replicated meat? On the other hand, Riker says animals are no longer held for food production...
He knows a guy…
If the Trek universe is like ours, then sonic showers originally started out as an invention designed to vibrate your naughty bits.
Please remember that vibrating massagers were originally medical devices to treat hysteria in women.
Well, in the case of fish, you don't need to "hold" them - fishing is actually one of the last major "wild caught" food industries today (though obviously fish farms are a thing).
Vat-grown meat, maybe. I think we're already close to that.
Tom Paris also said nobody smoked anymore after about the 22nd century yet TOS Movie Era transporter rooms and corridors have signs about No Smoking and Raffi is addicted to snakebite. So we can probably take what some Trek characters say about the firm state of human cultural development with a grain of salt and try to remember they may be speaking from their own experiences and biases.
The term "nobody" is used as we do - a generalization meaning "nobody cool", "very few people" "nobody who's health-conscious/informed of the risks".
Regarding the no smoking sign, these days, there are plenty of examples of signage warning people against things you wouldn't think you'd ever/after all these years caution people about. (https://www.demilked.com/funny-obvious-signs/) Especially if a ship might have non-Starfleet visitors on it that don't have ship's rules drilled into them daily.
Regarding the no smoking sign, these days, there are plenty of examples of signage warning people against things you wouldn't think you'd ever/after all these years caution people about. (https://www.demilked.com/funny-obvious-signs/) Especially if a ship might have non-Starfleet visitors on it that don't have ship's rules drilled into them daily.
The number of times I was around fellow expats talking about the USA where they would confidently proclaim something like “In America, everyone has air conditioners!” (they never remembered to say in the USA, it was always the entirety of the Americas) has led me to have no issue believing people state things as absolute truth that reflect nothing more than their very specific experience.
I try to call it the US. But I admit that I'm like most in calling US citizens "Americans", even though Brazilians, Colombians, and Canadians are as much dwellers on this set of continents as we are.
Say what you want about us United States-ians, we have a tendency to think big. Back in 1814, when we were just a dinky line of colonies down one side of North America, President Monroe decided that the Western Hemisphere was our backyard, and told everyone else to stay out.
Say what you want about us United States-ians, we have a tendency to think big. Back in 1814, when we were just a dinky line of colonies down one side of North America, President Monroe decided that the Western Hemisphere was our backyard, and told everyone else to stay out.
Since I, too, am obviously an American I cannot speak for any other citizen of any other country on this fair land mass but I think we are properly called Americans just because 1) it is in our name and 2) no other part of our very long proper name converts to a nationality/adjective well.
I was much more careful about not referring to our country as America because those from elsewhere on our continent called us out on that pretty quickly.
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True. People do this in RL.
Berman Trek liked to make Gene's future look as clean as possible (Berman always says he felt like he was the guardian of Gene's legacy after he died and didn't want to go too far in the other direction) but it often made it sound too clean. DS9 thankfully began the steering away from that in the post-TOS Era.
I'm glad Berman kept STNG on course, it had been on the air for years with Gene with us so changing it from season 5 onwards would have been awkward and bad taste.
The show started changing in season 2. While Gene died in 1991, his role in TNG began diminishing, due to ill health.
Gene was still with us after season 2 for some time and while I don't know details I'd imagine he was still involved with STNG in some way after season 2?
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