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Well we know the real reason for the slip up in continuity so the fact that Generations hadn't been written yet lets Ronald D.Moore off with a warning! :techman:
JB
 
Scotty should never have been in Generations. It should've been a well-paid cameo for Spock and McCoy. The scene was barely rewritten, with Chekov doing a bunch of medical stuff and sounding like McCoy.

The least they could've done was use Uhura or, better yet, Sulu (who could introduce his own daughter) instead of Scotty.
 
DUCANE: Not precisely, but we've narrowed the window to a period two years before you joined the crew, when the ship was under attack.
SEVEN: Species three two nine, the Kazon.
DUCANE: Our database indicates Voyager was boarded twice during that period.
SEVEN: The Kazon are an inferior species. They don't possess the technology to create such a complex weapon.



From "Relativity"

I post this because Ducane illustrates his report with an image of Maje Culluh, whose smug face still screams out for a punch centuries later. The way Seven dismisses the Kazon just slays me with laughter...they really are poorly regarded, aren't they?
 
DUCANE: Not precisely, but we've narrowed the window to a period two years before you joined the crew, when the ship was under attack.
SEVEN: Species three two nine, the Kazon.
DUCANE: Our database indicates Voyager was boarded twice during that period.
SEVEN: The Kazon are an inferior species. They don't possess the technology to create such a complex weapon.



From "Relativity"

I post this because Ducane illustrates his report with an image of Maje Culluh, whose smug face still screams out for a punch centuries later. The way Seven dismisses the Kazon just slays me with laughter...they really are poorly regarded, aren't they?

there is an earlier episode where Seven outright says that when they encountered the Kazon, the collective determined that they were unworthy of assimilation. I always took it as a shot by the writers at how crappy a “bad guy“ the Kazon were.
 
there is an earlier episode where Seven outright says that when they encountered the Kazon, the collective determined that they were unworthy of assimilation. I always took it as a shot by the writers at how crappy a “bad guy“ the Kazon were.

I think the writers knew from the beginning because there were moments during the Seska arc where she was like, "Literally these are the stupidest aliens since the Pakleds."
 
The way Seven dismisses the Kazon just slays me with laughter...they really are poorly regarded, aren't they?
Yet Voyager sure spent a lot of time running away from this "inferior" species. It's this "inferior" species that forces Janeway to destroy the Caretaker array, and trap Voyager in the delta quadrant for years.

If anything the writers should have leaned even harder into the whole space LA street gang concept, it was a good idea.

IMC Headquarters, if you've ever had to live someplace where street gangs exerted a strong influence, you might "appreciate" just how scary and powerful the Kazon appeared to be.
 
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I agree that the concept of the Kazon, just like with many things in Voyager, was quite good. Just the execution was sub-par, both in design (Klingons with differently styles hair? Also let's be honest some aspects of the design are very problematic..) and how they were presented/used in the story.

A species that consists of brutal, roving pirate bands/technological barbarians, traveling around space in stolen ships and with stolen weapons, looking for people to plunder is a very good antagonist concept.
Yes, from the Borg POV they'd be an inferior species, because they don't produce much/anything by themselves, but that doesn't change them from being deadly.
 
Here's a Trek imponderable...

Are very young Ferengi females allowed to wear diapers? Because if they're not, that effectively punishes every male in the house, resident and visitor alike.
 
Here's a Trek imponderable...

Are very young Ferengi females allowed to wear diapers? Because if they're not, that effectively punishes every male in the house, resident and visitor alike.

Diapers are a relatively modern invention, primarily used by western civilizations. Here's Wikipedia's info on diaperless techniques in childrearing, which is far more common in the world than diaper use.
 
Also, it's possible that such rules only start applying from a certain point in their development onward (and not for infants). At least this is the case for certain rules in some earth cultures.
 
Ok, here's another one...

Given that no Ferengi female was ever allowed to wear clothing (at the time of "Family Business"), how did Ishka get her hands on a dress?
 
Yet Voyager sure spent a lot of time running away from this "inferior" species. It's this "inferior" species that forces Janeway to destroy the Caretaker array, and trap Voyager in the delta quadrant for years.

If anything the writers should have leaned even harder into the whole space LA street gang concept, it was a good idea.

IMC Headquarters, if you've ever had to live someplace where street gangs exerted a strong influence, you might "appreciate" just how scary and powerful the Kazon appeared to be.

Yes, but you aren't immune to bullets. And Voyager wasn't immune to disruptors. The Borg can be, and the Kazon aren't smart enough to figure out what to do once you are.

An uneducated thug with a gun is a threat to anyone in range. A clever man with access to chemicals could threaten a whole city.
 
Ok, here's another one...

Given that no Ferengi female was ever allowed to wear clothing (at the time of "Family Business"), how did Ishka get her hands on a dress?

She ordered them using Quark’s name


:shrug:
 
And the FCA never wondered what was up, a male Ferengi ordering a flowery sparkly gown?

A) Ferengi buy and sell everything not nailed down. It could just be another product.

and B) A hypercapitalistic society like the Ferengi doesn't care what Quark wants to do with a dress. A sale is a sale. If he wants to give it to a non-Ferengi woman or give it to a Ferengi woman who might get arrested for wearing it or wear it himself or ritualistically tear it to pieces, it's all the same to Ferengi society.
 
Still, it would have made more sense to have an actual female suffrage movement on Ferenginar. It would have provided a much more reasonable context for the reforms that occured in "Profit and Lace".
 
Undoubtedly. It's their equivalent of porno pics. Which makes Zek's sudden transition that much more problematic.

Given that females are essentially equivalent to livestock under Ferengi law, it would be like our president passing a law that cows, pigs, and chickens had equal rights as humans. Killing and eating them was now a crime, they had to be compensated for eggs and milk, offspring could not be separated from parents, all of it. Can you imagine how our society would react?
 
Some people can make dresses themselves... ;)

Or, given that this is an interstellar trade-oriented civilization (with replicators), it's unlikely that they'd completely block access to information as that could only be bad for trade. So how hard can it have been for her to download a dress from an alien database, tailor it a bit (or even let an alien like Garak design a dress for her), mail her the replicator pattern, and be done withi it? Certainly a female with the hacking skills of Moogie (who was able to fool the FCA for an extended period of time with her trade imperium under false aliases) should be able to accomplish that.
 
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