Didn't The Orville do a thing like that? A species that developed much faster than other species (because they lived in a different kind of space most of the time), that were at roughly bronze age level when the crew first met them, and at the end of the episode a few centuries beyond them. And then, when they met a member of their species again the year after that, they had reached near Godlike status and studied them to understand concepts like mortality their own ancestors had long since overcome?
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Yes they did and it was a great episode
TIL that wikipedia had a big fight over whether to capitalize the "I" in "Into Darkness" in the title of their article on the film.
I've never heard about that. That's a pretty impressive debate, I mean it must have been to have its own Wikipedia page!
Personally when I refer to titles on my own site I usually just look up what the creators called it and go with that. That way I can move on to writing 40,000 words about other useless nitpicks and trivia instead.
In a few days, hurricane Kirk will drift over my country (by that time hopefully no longer a hurricane but merely a storm with bad weather).
Perhaps in a few days I can legitimately say: 'yeah, Kirk was responsible for significant damage to my country' (though of course, I hope it won't cause any damage).
Perhaps in a few days I can legitimately say: 'yeah, Kirk was responsible for significant damage to my country' (though of course, I hope it won't cause any damage).
I don't think I'd ever want to keep personal logs. Professional logs, command logs, duty logs etc... I obviously understand doing that for record keeping purposes, and that in itself amounts to a lot of logs that you're ultimately required to keep, alongside various other report filing.
But personal logs too? I mean you're out on deep space missions & are probably sending correspondences home as well. I don't even bother keeping a diary right now! If I had all that another stuff to keep records of, I would never want to just sit there journaling in my free time.
What, am I writing my autobiography? My personal logs would probably be just personal to-do lists or general calendar stuff, NOT a bunch of BS about personal relations & life blithering.
But personal logs too? I mean you're out on deep space missions & are probably sending correspondences home as well. I don't even bother keeping a diary right now! If I had all that another stuff to keep records of, I would never want to just sit there journaling in my free time.
What, am I writing my autobiography? My personal logs would probably be just personal to-do lists or general calendar stuff, NOT a bunch of BS about personal relations & life blithering.
I suppose the preponderance of personal logs recorded by everyone else practically demands that if you wish to be remembered as correctly as possible (or, in the case of propagandists, incorrectly in your favor), you have to explain things in your own words so all that's left of you in the future is more than someone else's biased/flawed impressions.
I journal every night, so doing a personal log wouldn't be a problem for me. It's a good way to sift through my thoughts.
Though I've never been able to stick with a diary of my daily life, I suppose for a while I kept a journal of sorts; I had a streak in which I wrote a lyric a day for a few years. Not always stuff that was happening to me, but inspired by music I was listening to, or the news, or something I read in the Bible.
Starfleet probably mandates the recording of personal logs by everyone, even if it's done begrudgingly, like a kid who doesn't want to do his homework or write a thank-you letter to Grandma.
I wonder how many of them turn out like this:
Or this:
Starfleet probably mandates the recording of personal logs by everyone, even if it's done begrudgingly, like a kid who doesn't want to do his homework or write a thank-you letter to Grandma.
I wonder how many of them turn out like this:
Or this:
I definitely don't like the idea of that. A mandate makes it even less desirable. It's akin to the idea that they'd force regular counseling sessions for everyone. That's just some authoritarian BS masquerading as thinly veiled, touchy-feely, progressive healthcare mumbo-jumbo, but really it's the line of reasoning that suggests only people with something to hide would mind having their personal thoughts or inner feelings being a matter of record. Not cool.
I'm not saying it's an impossible circumstance though. Worf wilfully making a diary entry about his upcoming birthday party is a very unWorf-like thing to do imho. I could easily imagine him only doing so because he's directed to. Thankfully that's never really been claimed, cuz I wouldn't like it
Personal logs might be quite revealing to future historians, I think.
Captain's log, stardate 51263.8.
Another long, boring day at the bridge. Didn't like the tone of voice in which ensign what's-his-name who always is on the Occupations post said 'yes ma'am' to me, so I assigned the little twerp to night shift again. Funniest thing is that he even seems to think he's volunteering for it, and that it'll be good for his career. Yeah, right, as if he'll get any promotion from me any time soon.
Then during lunch time that obsequious little hog tried to feed me one of his 'creations'. No, thanks, I'll just use an extra replicator ration. Captain's prerogative I guess. If he's so enthusiastic about a dish it's guaranteed to contain leola root, and lots of it. Yuck!
Our weekly senior officer conference didn't amount to much. A few useless suggestions by mr. Token Maquis which I ignored. Tuvok deflected my suggestion everyone should address me from now on with 'your imperial highness'. He says it's not 'standard Starfleet protocol'. He also said it would be immoral to fire on those ugly alien ships we've been seeing these past few days in this region of space without trying to talk to them first. That man can be annoyingly by-the-book at times.
Still don't know what to do about either Helm Boy, who's a walking hormone bomb, and my chief engineer, who seems to have an anger management problem. Perhaps I should force them into a situation where they'd have to work closely together, to see her explode at him, just for a good laugh. Oh yeah, the Doctor is again starting to ask annoying questions and developing too much of a personality, time for his monthly reset, I guess. That's it for today I guess.
Why do they call a Hurricane Kirk? Sometimes they are really stupid respective naming.
That's the thing. I think if you are one of the top command of a ship on adventurous missions etc... which might be of historical significance, then yeah, maybe your personal memoir kept on file in the ship's computer is of some significance as well, for posterity's sake.
But the majority of officers are not historical footnotes. The idea of Sam Lavelle or Tess Allenby keeping a personal diary as junior officers? It doesn't seem all that worthwhile beyond personal reasons, of wanting a diary of your own, which never appealed to me.
The last thing I have the hubris to think I should be valuing is my own errant daily thoughts lol
^ Well, I could understand that logs of 'average' officers could be interesting to historians of later centuries, too, if they'd want to get a picture of how life on board was in, say, the late 24th century. I'm sure that if we somehow found a personal log of some random, middle level Viking officer from around the year 1000 that would be of great interest to today's historians specializing in the era, too, even when it doesn't tell us anything about 'famous' raids or other events. Less so perhaps if we had hundreds of those already (which we don't, AFAIK).
I can't really believe Starfleet would make them mandatory, though. I can't see the purpose of that. After all, these are meant never to be read by other people (barring exceptional circumstances, such as homicide investigations), at least, probably not while the person who made them is alive and perhaps a few decades after that. I'd rather chalk it up to all those wonderful humans Being Evolved, making them all want to keep a log.
I can't really believe Starfleet would make them mandatory, though. I can't see the purpose of that. After all, these are meant never to be read by other people (barring exceptional circumstances, such as homicide investigations), at least, probably not while the person who made them is alive and perhaps a few decades after that. I'd rather chalk it up to all those wonderful humans Being Evolved, making them all want to keep a log.
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