Temporal Protocols, paragraph 5, subsection 3: I Got A Feeling
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Nothing in the episode to that effect.
Plasus: Your Federation orders do not entitle you to defy local governments.Perhaps, the Federation Charter was changed after and due to the incident on Ardana in TOS's "Cloud Minders".
It doesn't sound like the Federation could change anything on Ardana, even if the council chose to.
I love the little animated intro they have been doing on SNW and on the final season of Discovery with the ship from Each series doing the Starfleet Delta. It's short and neat.
All the current shows have that.
Oh I only have SNW, Discovery, and Picard, but it's neat that all the shows have it
I have a question pertaining to the universal translator. In DS9 episode "Little Green Men", when the Ferengis' universal translator was fixed, the 1940s humans could understand their language. This means that only one of the communicating parties need to have universal translator. So, in my opinion, pets and other animals would be able to here sentient beings with universal translator speak in the animal's primitive language
You know I had never thought about all that and now you raise an interesting question.
Probably depends on where the line is between a 'primitive language' and other forms of communication so primitive they don't even function as a language the UT can decipher at all.
But at minimum, Trek has stated explicitly where whales and dolphins are on that spectrum so the UT should definitely work on Cetaceans.
But at minimum, Trek has stated explicitly where whales and dolphins are on that spectrum so the UT should definitely work on Cetaceans.
Possibly, but a lot of our speech might not be translatable into that 'primitive language' - e.g. a discussion about the stability of the warp field (and how it might be improved). What would the UT do with the parts it can't translate?
Realistically, that's always going to be an issue to some extent.
Maybe the folks at Roswell had enough of a scientific (or science fiction) background to catch bits of (largely context-free) meaning from a phrase like that, but even today you could easily find millions of people who would think that statement is total gobbledygook.
When dealing with anyone who lacks the basic context of the subject you're trying to discuss, you're always going to have to start by explaining the context first, probably in very broad and metaphorical language.
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As most dog owners know, dogs already seem to understand quite a number of words. Quite possibly the UT wouldn't even add that much to their comprehension.
But, the UT would possibly help us understand them better. (I have the feeling many humans are no better in understanding dogs than the other way around).
But, the UT would possibly help us understand them better. (I have the feeling many humans are no better in understanding dogs than the other way around).
You think they’d at least have something, because they have Cetacean Ops by the time of TNG.
Unless they just drag Troi down there once in a while to see how they are doing?
“I sense hunger. They want more fish. Aside from that, everything is fine”
If the UT doesn’t work, at least there must be some other middle-man device. Maybe something that can translate Cetacean language into text and back.
So, what would have happened to the Luminescent Silly Straw Intelligence we saw in TNG:Emergence after it left the ship?
Loose end that sits in a pile with all the others they created
I haven't watched much of the newer series, but it's come to my understanding that in some, they revisit such one-time aliens and concepts. This is one I'm actually curious about. In which directions would such a new lifeform develop further? Has it transcended the material plane altogether by now? Is it locked in a bitter and never-ending feud with the Glowing Cocktail Umbrella Intelligence?
Then again, perhaps it's better left alone. Quite frequently, such revisits may actually be disappointing.
TNG did a few of these over it's run.
One I really wanted to see in a future series was the nanites from the season 3 episode Evolution. At the end of the episode they left the nanites on a world free to evolve on their own.
Would have been nice even for a small mention had they been brought up in a future series. Alas it wasn't to be. End of my little rant.
Given how quickly those developed, I'd expect them to have reached Q level powers within a month or so.
Come to think of it, I haven't seen that ep in quite some time, perhaps I should rewatch it.
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