Boy, you said it. Dire, dumb and a damp rag.
General Trek Questions and Observations
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Yes, in circumstances like that Janeway should certainly have continued to promote those of the crew who were performing well on schedule, even if they didn't change duties. It's not Harry's fault Janeway got them stranded in the Delta Quadrant.
I would have liked a scene between Janeway and her admiral when they got back to Earth:
Admiral: "So, were you unhappy with Ensign Kim's performance in some way?"
Janeway: "No, nothing particularly stands out as unsatisfactory."
"So why didn't you promote him? Is there some reason we shouldn't jump him straight to Lt. Cdr.?"
I seem to remember that the British Navy does (or did during the Napoleonic Wars) require an exam given to junior officers before the were promoted to Lt. The exam was given by flag officers, NOT the ship's captain, and verbal, not written. Someone who might be in command of the ship in a dangerous situation needs to be able to think on their feet. It was pretty terrifying for the junior officers: "Good afternoon, Mr. You're off a lee shore in a stiff breeze and you're too close to complete a tack. What do you do? Quickly now, you've only got seconds before the ship's aground." Of course my extensive knowledge of British officer exams is based on reading Hornblower, not on actual historical study.
Captains could make, or bust, warrant officers, not promotion among commissioned officers.
Clearly not the case in Voyager, though, as Paris proved.
Admiral: "So, were you unhappy with Ensign Kim's performance in some way?"
Janeway: "No, nothing particularly stands out as unsatisfactory."
"So why didn't you promote him? Is there some reason we shouldn't jump him straight to Lt. Cdr.?"
I seem to remember that the British Navy does (or did during the Napoleonic Wars) require an exam given to junior officers before the were promoted to Lt. The exam was given by flag officers, NOT the ship's captain, and verbal, not written. Someone who might be in command of the ship in a dangerous situation needs to be able to think on their feet. It was pretty terrifying for the junior officers: "Good afternoon, Mr. You're off a lee shore in a stiff breeze and you're too close to complete a tack. What do you do? Quickly now, you've only got seconds before the ship's aground." Of course my extensive knowledge of British officer exams is based on reading Hornblower, not on actual historical study.
Captains could make, or bust, warrant officers, not promotion among commissioned officers.
Clearly not the case in Voyager, though, as Paris proved.
It's kind of weird, though. You're asking someone to make decisions based only on someone's say-so, without all the accompanying visual, auditory, and other sensations that usually accompany such a circumstance. A mere description of the circumstance is not sufficient to test what the person would do, as it fails to take into consideration the effect of their senses, the alarm that an actual catastrophe is happening, as opposed to the knowledge that it's not and they're speaking in hypotheticals.
I suppose job interview questions are like that, too...
I suppose job interview questions are like that, too...
So, you would rather have something like what happened to Wesley, and thrust him straight in to situations that he didn't know were tests?
Ideally, but I recognize the real problems with that, as well. Studying past behavior, perhaps, to make predictions of future behavior?
Could that possibly be were Betazoids might provide more support, able to look not only at past behaviors but emotional state in handling stress as well.
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Saw this and thought of Spock's marshmelon dispenser.
Spock: "I have made a few minor...adjustments to the device." (aims at McCoy and fires)
McCoy: "Ow! Cut that out, Spock!"
Saw this and thought of Spock's marshmelon dispenser.
Spock: "I have made a few minor...adjustments to the device." (aims at McCoy and fires)
McCoy: "Ow! Cut that out, Spock!"
Last year's Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest "Dishonorable Mentions" included this Trek one in the Sci Fi category:
Not my picture, but I saw a U-Haul with this written on it while out grocery shopping. LD could do U-Haul ads.
Well, the terminology's right there...
Worf looks like a bison.
Romulans seem free to tool around in the neutral zone all they want. Same with the Klingons. Of course, the Klingon neutral zone was only first mentioned in TWOK.
But it always seems like the moment the Enterprise crosses into the Neutral Zone (regardless which border), it's immediately set upon by adversarial ships that, apparently, were already in the Neutral Zone.
Oh that, I don't know about TOS, but to me, TNG clearly showed it wasn't a place the Rommies could make a stake on a world and build an outpost, or certain episodes wouldn't have happened. I always figured they were there to see if they could provoke the Federation, and Starfleet knew it. It was all posturing and playing a long game. But it was never a place the Romulans could truly treat as their own territory..
The Klingon NZ was just a little blob in space 
https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery...h-of-khan-2016/chapter01/st2-twok-dc-0074.jpg
In TNG, the Rommies were always there already, decloaking in the NZ to tell the Enterprise they can't go there - while they were already there all along
https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery...h-of-khan-2016/chapter01/st2-twok-dc-0074.jpg
In TNG, the Rommies were always there already, decloaking in the NZ to tell the Enterprise they can't go there - while they were already there all along
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