I thought it would be interesting to see what the "likes" and "dislikes" are, IN GENERAL, regarding the three Kelvinverse films. I know, on the whole, I accept and very much enjoy them...so there's a lot to like. But, there's also things that frustrate me or don't resonate. I thought it would be interesting to capture those and see the differences in people's thoughts.
Let's try to do ourselves a favor and avoid being "really funny" by saying stuff like "I don't like any of it and I hate all of it."
LIKE:
1. TOS-focus (using new versions of the original characters- and not trying to be Star Trek The NEXT Next Generation)
2. Adventure and action oriented stories- love that they've gotten away from ponderous, preachy dialogue and dismal soul-sucking debate/banter
3. Fun, thrilling structure
4. The cast...they are all brilliant. Even the "guest players" are all very good (Greenwood, Cumby, etc)
5. The music is awesome. Not Jerry Goldsmith circa TMP / TFF awesome, but pretty damned good.
6. Good emotional punch. I've gotten misty-eyed in each movie. There were TOS movies that I love that didn't get me misty-eyed. Again, I think this is largely due to the cast's performances.
7. Well-placed and well-timed humor
8. Simple adventure stories...not trying to be "Game of Thrones" in space where everyone cares about the political climate and how the Tholians and the Calamarain are going to respond to the destruction of Romulus and crap like that.
DISLIKE:
1. The production design is, almost completely, a source of irritation. I don't like the props, ships, sets, etc. at all.
2. Over-done action. Sometimes, I get dizzy and find myself with a headache watching the massive amount of punching, jumping, punching, shouting, punching, shooting, punching and falling that goes on. Oh, and they punch a lot.
3. Under-utilizing the Kirk-Spock-Bones dynamic (although Beyond did a much better job here)
4. Transwarp Beaming (again, thank you Beyond for sending this in the same scrap heap that Nemesis sent the emotion chip into)
5. Caricature NuKirk. I love Chris Pine and I love the evolution of the Kirk character in these movies...but I hate the "Kirk is a total reckless cowboy" and "Kirk is a manwhore" stuff being over-done. Again, thank you Beyond for largely getting rid of this and letting Kirk just be Kirk.
6. Over-Emotional NuSpock. I'd need another hour to write on this one. I love Quinto, and I like his portrayal during "normal" times...but then there's the other stuff that seems a bit over-the-top (and yes, I know that Spock when he was younger on TOS was portrayed as being less emotionally controlled...but he was never screaming, crying, and beating people to death regularly with his bare hands).
7. The phasers are these little pop guns. There's no more beam weapons. Fanboy boo-hoo.
Interesting analysis here...I'd say that Beyond was the film most devoid of the things that have frustrated me.
What say you?
Let's try to do ourselves a favor and avoid being "really funny" by saying stuff like "I don't like any of it and I hate all of it."
LIKE:
1. TOS-focus (using new versions of the original characters- and not trying to be Star Trek The NEXT Next Generation)
2. Adventure and action oriented stories- love that they've gotten away from ponderous, preachy dialogue and dismal soul-sucking debate/banter
3. Fun, thrilling structure
4. The cast...they are all brilliant. Even the "guest players" are all very good (Greenwood, Cumby, etc)
5. The music is awesome. Not Jerry Goldsmith circa TMP / TFF awesome, but pretty damned good.
6. Good emotional punch. I've gotten misty-eyed in each movie. There were TOS movies that I love that didn't get me misty-eyed. Again, I think this is largely due to the cast's performances.
7. Well-placed and well-timed humor
8. Simple adventure stories...not trying to be "Game of Thrones" in space where everyone cares about the political climate and how the Tholians and the Calamarain are going to respond to the destruction of Romulus and crap like that.
DISLIKE:
1. The production design is, almost completely, a source of irritation. I don't like the props, ships, sets, etc. at all.
2. Over-done action. Sometimes, I get dizzy and find myself with a headache watching the massive amount of punching, jumping, punching, shouting, punching, shooting, punching and falling that goes on. Oh, and they punch a lot.
3. Under-utilizing the Kirk-Spock-Bones dynamic (although Beyond did a much better job here)
4. Transwarp Beaming (again, thank you Beyond for sending this in the same scrap heap that Nemesis sent the emotion chip into)
5. Caricature NuKirk. I love Chris Pine and I love the evolution of the Kirk character in these movies...but I hate the "Kirk is a total reckless cowboy" and "Kirk is a manwhore" stuff being over-done. Again, thank you Beyond for largely getting rid of this and letting Kirk just be Kirk.
6. Over-Emotional NuSpock. I'd need another hour to write on this one. I love Quinto, and I like his portrayal during "normal" times...but then there's the other stuff that seems a bit over-the-top (and yes, I know that Spock when he was younger on TOS was portrayed as being less emotionally controlled...but he was never screaming, crying, and beating people to death regularly with his bare hands).
7. The phasers are these little pop guns. There's no more beam weapons. Fanboy boo-hoo.
Interesting analysis here...I'd say that Beyond was the film most devoid of the things that have frustrated me.
What say you?
