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Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

I hope they found a new character for Mary Chieffo to play, so they can keep her in Discovery.

Even if Section 31 takes place in the 23rd Century, L'Rell can't keep her position forever. The constant threat of war needs to come back in time for TOS and I don't see that happening with L'Rell in charge.

She's got 10 years, at least, of Chancellorship to go, and who knows what happens from there. Maybe she's deposed and runs off as an exile pirate. Maybe Section 31 kidnaps her, and she becomes the spymaster-in-charge of the nominal Federation organization. Maybe she just changes her tactics in 2267 because of a change in Starfleet policy and a reversion of relations.

Note: her good friend Pike is crippled and "disappeared" shortly before the second war breaks out. What if Pike was the only reason the Klingons would maintain the tenuous peace?
 
Of all the tech Discovery added, I'm surprised they didn't add video feeds to to the Tricorder or something, it would be a lot easier for the captain to know what was going on during an away mission if they had a video feed.
 
Of all the tech Discovery added, I'm surprised they didn't add video feeds to to the Tricorder or something, it would be a lot easier for the captain to know what was going on during an away mission if they had a video feed.

They should have. If they're going to be less than faithful to continuity, deliberately, then they should go all the way. As if it would make a difference, they'd later backtrack with embarrassing dialogue that the hapless actors have to recite. Thankfully most of them aren't the most dedicated fans.

Scientific liberty is one thing (all sci-if has done it to varying extents, even TOS but thankfully it had the lunacy of the 1960s as partial defense when it came to giant space amoeba and gangster planet and the rest) but established canon does become its own legitimate issue. Why not bring in Darth Vader and Daffy Duck to complete the ensemble... actually, that I might actually see. There is a legitimate line when it comes to prequels and making them fit in with something already imprinted on audiences, which generally (but not always) are the main target for expanding into something such as a prequel. (It's another reason their moving the show forward might work. Heck, I enjoy Space 1999 and its premise is as laughably bad as anything could get. But something else made up for it as S1999 is actually underrated, and it sure as heck wasn't inane incessant pandering fanservice to compel viewers' interest.)
 
They should have. If they're going to be less than faithful to continuity, deliberately, then they should go all the way. As if it would make a difference, they'd later backtrack with embarrassing dialogue that the hapless actors have to recite. Thankfully most of them aren't the most dedicated fans.

Scientific liberty is one thing (all sci-if has done it to varying extents, even TOS but thankfully it had the lunacy of the 1960s as partial defense when it came to giant space amoeba and gangster planet and the rest) but established canon does become its own legitimate issue. Why not bring in Darth Vader and Daffy Duck to complete the ensemble... actually, that I might actually see. There is a legitimate line when it comes to prequels and making them fit in with something already imprinted on audiences, which generally (but not always) are the main target for expanding into something such as a prequel. (It's another reason their moving the show forward might work. Heck, I enjoy Space 1999 and its premise is as laughably bad as anything could get. But something else made up for it as S1999 is actually underrated, and it sure as heck wasn't inane incessant pandering fanservice to compel viewers' interest.)
Your posts are not making any sense again.
 
Well since TOS is after Disco maybe the video tech comes then, but what amuses me most is TNG when you can get full video of the away team on a mission. Who or what is recording the video?
 
Of all the tech Discovery added, I'm surprised they didn't add video feeds to to the Tricorder or something, it would be a lot easier for the captain to know what was going on during an away mission if they had a video feed.
The classic series had that. Remember the one where The trio went back to Earth in the past to stop McCoy changing history? That recorder had video feed on it from recording the history passing by on the time knot.
 
I re-watched a whole batch of TNG episodes yesterday, in the lead-up to Star Trek: Picard. I got through a good chunk of the third season because I wasn't going anywhere, starting with "Booby Trap". The Enterprise encounters a ship that's been hanging out in space for 1,000 years. Which takes on a whole new meaning now because of Discovery. ;)

Of other note, Geordi's idea for music on a date at the beach sucks.
 
The classic series had that. Remember the one where The trio went back to Earth in the past to stop McCoy changing history? That recorder had video feed on it from recording the history passing by on the time knot.
I meant transmitting a live video feed to the ship, that just seemed to be a recorder.
 
Holy crap. I've known of FASA and the Four-Year Klingon War since I first went online in 1996. But in 23 years, I never bothered to find out more about it. I'm kicking myself in the head for not doing so.

These two videos go into the FASA Klingon War role-playing game from 1986. Part I and Part II.

There's so much in here that I would've referred to much earlier if I'd known more about it sooner. So much. The Klingon War pre-TOS. Sending away Constitution Class ships for fear they'd be destroyed. The hot and cold stages of the war between the Federation and Klingons. That the Klingons were fighting a whole other war while the Federation was expanding.

This is fucking amazing. Oh, and I fully intend to use it to back up my case for Discovery Season 1, once I've fully taken all of this in. WATCH THESE VIDEOS! Between the two of them, it's about a half-hour total.
 
It should be noted that the FASA stuff is not canon and also the source of Alec Peters' take on Axanar. ;)

True, but the fact that these ideas go back to the '80s, before TNG or anything else, works in our favor. I'm sure there were a lot of people who were willing to go with the idea of a Klingon War back when everything was TOS-related.

The 23rd Century wasn't as fully fleshed out as the 24th Century became, so the DSC writers chose to look at a lot more non-canon info to build this period up. Only for inspiration though. They had to make it their own. The Vulcan Isolationists in "Lethe", who want Vulcan to secede from the Federation, came from Spock's World by Diane Duane. Reading Alice In Wonderland to Spock (and Michael) came from TAS. FASA's just a little bit deeper than those.

A lot of those battles could still work as skirmishes prior to DSC or could actually happen during the nine months Discovery was missing. I think, I'm guessing, the guys who came up with this game went with four years because that's how long the Civil War lasted or how long the US's involvement in WWII was.
 
They should have. If they're going to be less than faithful to continuity, deliberately, then they should go all the way. As if it would make a difference, they'd later backtrack with embarrassing dialogue that the hapless actors have to recite. Thankfully most of them aren't the most dedicated fans.

Scientific liberty is one thing (all sci-if has done it to varying extents, even TOS but thankfully it had the lunacy of the 1960s as partial defense when it came to giant space amoeba and gangster planet and the rest) but established canon does become its own legitimate issue. Why not bring in Darth Vader and Daffy Duck to complete the ensemble... actually, that I might actually see. There is a legitimate line when it comes to prequels and making them fit in with something already imprinted on audiences, which generally (but not always) are the main target for expanding into something such as a prequel. (It's another reason their moving the show forward might work. Heck, I enjoy Space 1999 and its premise is as laughably bad as anything could get. But something else made up for it as S1999 is actually underrated, and it sure as heck wasn't inane incessant pandering fanservice to compel viewers' interest.)
I love Gerry Anderson stuff!! The fabulous Thunderbirds!
 
SFDebris started his Season 2 reviews last month, I just noticed now. So far he only has Episode 1 done.
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c116.php

This guy sounds very "in the middle" leaning slightly negative. I suspect, if he fits the profile, he won't like the second half of the season.

Looking at the other stuff he reviews: Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Blake's 7, Doctor Who, Farscape, Firefly, The Orville, Red Dwarf, Stargate, The Twilight Zone, The X-Files... he's into it all. So it's probably more spread out and why he's more "in the middle" than overtly one way or the other.

Here's his take on "Calypso". Let's see what he thinks. I don't care what he thinks of the rest of DSC, as long as he likes this. It's my Litmus Test.

EDIT: He's familiar with mythology. That's a plus. And it sounds like he likes the episode! I don't know if I'll see eye-to-eye with him on everything anywhere else, but he has my respect. He speaks pretty highly of "Calypso".
 
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