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[DaveyNY]

Oh shit I'll have to edit my other post but found this ship chart

From Ex-Astris-Scientia

Yeah, that poster is part of the first freebie to folks who have bought a subscription to the Eaglemoss Discovery line of starships.
I've got mine still in the cardboard roll till I can afford to get it framed.
They also included a Klingon one...

You can probably find the Klingon one on ExAstris as well.


on a side note...
The USS EDISON still kinda-sorta looks like the Millennium Falcon to me.

 

[Lord Garth]

Anyone else watching The Twilight Zone? I'm about to put on the first episode the new series. I've watched some of the original series. I never bothered with the two middle series from the '80s and early-2000s.

I'm assuming they want Discovery fans to sample the series before DSC S2 is over, so they'll keep watching CBSAA. That being the case, fine I'll take the bait. Let's see how it is.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Anyone else watching The Twilight Zone? I'm about to put on the first episode the new series. I've watched some of the original series. I never bothered with the two middle series from the '80s and early-2000s.

I'm assuming they want Discovery fans to sample the series before DSC S2 is over, so they'll keep watching CBSAA. That being the case, fine I'll take the bait. Let's see how it is.

The original Twilight Zone showed the world devolve into nuclear warfare on multiple occassions in the 1960s, as well as several alien invasions and an active space program that reached other planets.

But the first episode of Peele's Twilight Zone acknowledges none of this. It doesn't fit continuity, and I will therefore boycott this travesty.

You can find more thoughts on my episode-by-episode blog.

 

[Lord Garth]

The original Twilight Zone showed the world devolve into nuclear warfare on multiple occassions in the 1960s, as well as several alien invasions and an active space program that reached other planets.

But the first episode of Peele's Twilight Zone acknowledges none of this. It doesn't fit continuity, and I will therefore boycott this travesty.

You can find more thoughts on my episode-by-episode blog.

But on a more serious note, we start with a comedian.

Who reminds me of an awful comedian I saw at a night club once. And that's truer to life than nuclear destruction... unless our world leaders have anything to say about it.

And I just cracked better jokes in this one post than that stand-up comedian did right there. Either one of them, I was talking about earlier. Horrible comedians, but a great episode so far.

 

[eschaton]

So, a minor retcon this season that bothered me:

Way back in Season 1, Episode 3, Michael says this about Through the Looking Glass...

When I was a kid, after my parents were killed my foster mother on Vulcan used to read it to me and her son. She and I were the only humans in the house. That's how I learned that the real world doesn't always adhere to logic.

Micheal's childhood character seemed young enough for this to be the case in the first season. However, I believe they decided to use the same child actor this season for flashbacks which occurred around the same time period, with the actress now two years older. They even canonically said that Michael was 10 when her parents were killed, when lines like this seemed to indicate she was younger.

I realize Michael was traumatized, but it's not normal to read to children at that age. And since Michael is established as being brilliant, she was probably a strong reader.

Maybe Amanda was just doing it for Spock, because he was younger and had dyslexia. Actually, maybe the decision to have Spock have dyslexia sprung from this line.

 

[XCV330]

Anyone else watching The Twilight Zone? I'm about to put on the first episode the new series. I've watched some of the original series. I never bothered with the two middle series from the '80s and early-2000s.

I'm assuming they want Discovery fans to sample the series before DSC S2 is over, so they'll keep watching CBSAA. That being the case, fine I'll take the bait. Let's see how it is.

I saw "the comedian" it dragged. It seemed like a ho-hum episode from the 80's run with a lot of profanity thrown in just to make sure watching it with your family is a non-option. I'll give it another try later, but not really enthused with it so far. The acting was good.

 

[Vger23]

Anyone else watching The Twilight Zone? I'm about to put on the first episode the new series. I've watched some of the original series. I never bothered with the two middle series from the '80s and early-2000s.

I'm assuming they want Discovery fans to sample the series before DSC S2 is over, so they'll keep watching CBSAA. That being the case, fine I'll take the bait. Let's see how it is.

I really liked both episodes. I thought, much like DSC has successfully done, that it captured the feel and intent of the original source material from the 60's while simultaneously giving it a modern update.

I'm all aboard for TZ!

 

[fireproof78]

I realize Michael was traumatized, but it's not normal to read to children at that age. And since Michael is established as being brilliant, she was probably a strong reader.

It's not? I was read to by teachers and parents through 6th grade. My parents read to my siblings as well until around that age.

 

[Lord Garth]

I really liked both episodes. I thought, much like DSC has successfully done, that it captured the feel and intent of the original source material from the 60's while simultaneously giving it a modern update.

I'm all aboard for TZ!

After about the 40-minute-mark, I started seriously wondering "What the Hell is going on here? This is weird!", which -- given that this is Twilight Zone -- is probably what I'm supposed to think. So mission accomplished! I'll definitely watch the second episode when I have time later on.

The only criticism I have, and it's not much of a criticism, is: I know this comedian isn't supposed to be any good but they could've made some of his jokes kind of funny. At a couple of points I was thinking, "This is painful!" But, again, I know that's what we're supposed to think and everyone else in the episode knows it too, so it's self-aware of this.

I don't want to spoil anything else for anyone who hasn't seen it yet and wants to, but I recommend giving the series a look.

Now all CBS All Access has to do is bring back Mission: Impossible as a TV series, and I'm golden.

 

[DaveyNY]

It's not? I was read to by teachers and parents through 6th grade. My parents read to my siblings as well until around that age.

heh ... in my second grade, I ended up reading to the class most of the time.
(I was at a sixth grade reading level by then and apparently our teacher hated reading to the class)

 

[DaveyNY]

After about the 40-minute-mark, I started seriously wondering "What the Hell is going on here? This is weird!", which -- given that this is Twilight Zone -- is probably what I'm supposed to think. So mission accomplished! I'll definitely watch the second episode when I have time later on.

The only criticism I have, and it's not much of a criticism, is: I know this comedian isn't supposed to be any good but they could've made some of his jokes kind of funny. At a couple of points I was thinking, "This is painful!" But, again, I know that's what we're supposed to think and everyone else in the episode knows it too, so it's self-aware of this.

I don't want to spoil anything else for anyone who hasn't seen it yet and wants to, but I recommend giving the series a look.

Now all CBS All Access has to do is bring back Mission: Impossible as a TV series, and I'm golden.

They would have to completely ignore the Tome Cruise movies for me to watch that.
I really hated what They did to Jim Phelps in the first movie.
He was NEVER a Villian!!!


(dang it! will somebody please post faster so I don't keep doubling posts!!)

 

[Lord Garth]

They would have to completely ignore the Tome Cruise movies for me to watch that.
I really hated what They did to Jim Phelps in the first movie.
He was NEVER a Villian!!!


(dang it! will somebody please post faster so I don't keep doubling posts!!)

What are these Tom Cruise movies you're talking about?

You know how I think of Star Trek as ending in 1999 and coming back in 2017? Well, if they do a CBSAA version of Mission: Impossible then, as far as I'm concerned, M:I ended in 1973 and came back in 20XX.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

I'm gonna be super edgy again: I like the Mission: Impossible movies except for the second one. That one's rubbish.

 

[Cyrus]

I don’t want “Mission: Impossible” back, but all this talk of Control makes me want “Get Smart” back. But I don’t think Don Adams can be replaced. There was a Get Smart movie a few years ago. Steve Carell was actually a decent choice to play Max but the movie was terrible.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Wasn't there also an Andy Dick version of Get Smart?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Wasn't there also an Andy Dick version of Get Smart?

He played Max's son, IIRC.

 

[Lord Garth]

Three more episodes to ride out. Speculation about The Borg and then the explosion that will be the reveal of the bridge of The Enterprise. Just two large waves and here I am with my surfboard, riding the currents. Some people think there are sharks in sight to jump over but I don't see Jaws anywhere. Maybe some people hope there's blood, so the sharks come out. There's no bleeding because Disco's smart enough to avoid getting cut.

 

[Tim Thomason]

The M:I movies are great. All of them. I watched the first movie before I watched the shows (both of them), so I wasn't really affected by the heel-turn for Jim.

They're a different beast, so I judge them on their own merit. I guess it'd be kinda like if Captain Kirk was the bad guy in Star Trek Generations, replacing Soran as the old guy willing to destroy Veridian III to get back to the Nexus. That'd be a pretty hated movie.

Or maybe the original plan for Too Short a Season that had Admiral Jameson actually be old, dying Admiral Kirk.

 

[Lord Garth]

They're a different beast, so I judge them on their own merit. I guess it'd be kinda like if Captain Kirk was the bad guy in Star Trek Generations, replacing Soran as the old guy willing to destroy Veridian III to get back to the Nexus. That'd be a pretty hated movie.

That's basically why I don't like the first movie. I'd been on a huge Mission: Impossible kick at the time, watching the series on FX. Then I saw the movie and it wasn't what I wanted at all. Not only did they turn Jim Phelps into the villain, it turned into a one-man show with just Ethan Hunt. That, to me, just wasn't the show I'd watched.

I only watched the movie once, in the theater, and haven't seen it since I was 16. So maybe I'd think differently of it today, now that I'm both older and know it to be something other than what I thought it would be. But maybe not.

I like the Mission: Impossible movies except for the second one. That one's rubbish.

The trailer for the second movie and the fact that John Woo was directing it had me going. The solo by Metallica whetted my appetite for it too. I went to see them at a concert that year. Korn and Powerman 5000 were warm-ups before they performed. And I got into some mosh pits.

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Needless to say, I was willing to consider all forgiven after the first movie and I was pumped to see Mission: Impossible 2. Then I saw it... and I thought it was total shit.

I didn't even bother to go see the third movie in the theater like I did the first two. I waited for the DVD. I thought it was just "okay". And then I didn't bother to see the rest.

I heard 4, 5, and 6 are better... but I've never watched them.

 

[Tim Thomason]

The last three movies are generally considered, and rightfully so, better than the first three. They definitely have more of a classic ensemble feel like the original series. Cruise still does his once-a-movie crazy stunt (or two) but the team has more of a chance to shine and get developed.

Ghost Protocol is the best, hands down.