You'd think that they would canonize a skewed version of the 4 years war, to shit on Axanar's cornflakes.
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RPG = Role Playing Game.
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In ST6, Spock mentioned "almost seventy years of unremitting hostility" from the Klingons in the briefing scene.For the entire time I've been a fan I thought the Federation and the Klingons being at war in the 23rd Century was normal. Which is why I never got people being up in arms about a Klingon War in Discovery. I don't want to get too much into it here because it's water under the bridge.
What I do want to mention is that I'm watching "The Emissary" (TNG). It's towards the beginning of the episode and K'Ehleyr talks about a Klingon Ship that had been in deep freeze for 75 years. Since "The Emissary" takes place in 2365, 75 years ago would be 2290. Between TFF and TUC. K'Ehleyr and Riker both mention the war between the Federation and the Klingons at that time.
Cutting and pasting the dialogue from the transcript below...
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K'Ehleyr: Two days ago, Starbase Three Three Six received an automated transmission from a Klingon ship, the T'Ong. That ship was sent out over seventy-five years ago.
Riker: When the Federation and the Klingon Empire were still at war.
K'Ehleyr: The message was directed to the Klingon High Command. It said only that the ship was returning home and was about to reach its awakening point.
Picard: Which suggests that the crew had been in cryogenic sleep for that long journey.
K'Ehleyr: Exactly.
Riker: And when this crew is revived?
K'Ehleyr: We'll have a ship full of Klingons who think the war is still going on.
Picard: So our task is to find the ship, and tell the Klingons they're no longer at war.
Riker: Why us? Wouldn't a Klingon ship be a better choice?
K'Ehleyr: A Klingon ship, the P'rang, is on its way, but it's two days behind us. That may be too late.
Troi: Why too late?
Riker: When the T'Ong crew awakens it will be within striking range of several Federation outposts.
Data: There are thirteen colonies with minimal defences in that sector.
K'Ehleyr: Nice, ripe targets for a Klingon warship.
Troi: And you believe you can convince these Klingons that the humans are now their allies?
K'Ehleyr: No, not a chance. If you ask me, talking will be a waste of time. Klingons of that era were raised to despise humans. We'll try diplomacy. But I promise you it won't work. And then you'll have to destroy them.
Picard: No.
K'Ehleyr: No? Captain, these Klingons are killers. You'll have no choice.
Picard: We shall find another choice. I want options and I want them before we encounter the Klingon ship. Lieutenant [Worf], I'm assigning you to help the Emissary. Dismissed.
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Then there's also the Klingon Ambassador's line from TVH: "There shall be no peace as long as Kirk lives!"
"But what you're talking about is the Movie Era!" Yes, I am. But the hostile, warlike attitude is typical of 23rd Century Klingons in general, certainly Kor and Kang's in TOS, David Gerrold's description of them in 1973 in "The Making of Trek", and it fits how they're depicted in Discovery down to a T.
EDIT: I have to say K'Ehleyr is one of my favorite Klingons. We have the same temperament.
And they never, ever should've fired Ron Jones as a composer. That can't be said enough.
In ST6, Spock mentioned "almost seventy years of unremitting hostility" from the Klingons in the briefing scene.
The primary reason I doubt it's true is because the Georgiou series is supposed to only begin filming after DIS Season 3. This implies that Michelle Yeoh is supposed to have a role in Discovery next season. That doesn't make sense with a time jump - unless she came along, and if she did that, how would she get back to Section 31?
RPG = Role Playing Game.
RED DAWN?Alternatively:
RPG = Rocket-Propelled Grenade
Wolverines!!!
Points to those who know that reference.![]()
RED DAWN?
(though I can't remember if it from the original or the remake)
I've noticed on Social media, facebook specifically, 'likes' and 'love' reactions on DSC related posts on TrekCore and the official Star Trek Facebook page always out number and negative reactions, though the actual comments on some articles, the negative comments out number positive comments.
Also over on Ex Astris Scientia, the individual episode polls, on most episodes (Season 1 and 2) votes are mostly 7 or above, with '8' usually having the most votes. Which clashes completely with the facebook comments on the site's Facebook page, which are almost always negative.
In contrast, on Reddit, in Star Trek focused subreddits, negative posts are usually downvoted to hell.
In contrast, on Reddit, in Star Trek focused subreddits, negative posts are usually downvoted to hell.
Memory-Alpha can't decide if Culber and Stamets are married or not.
Wilson Cruz, who plays Culber says they are not married, but Burnham in a log entry calls Stamets a Windower
While in Season 1 they referred to themselves as partners
The Merriam-Webster dictionary definition for 'Widower' says it can be applied to partners, not only a married couple, while a bunch of other dictionaries just say a married couple.
I personally don't care if they were married or not. I just find the argument interesting
I've never quite been sure what marriage means in the Trekverse.
I mean, most humans are secular during this time period. Furthermore, many of the legal benefits of state recognition of marriage have probably gone away - especially if we presume the Federation is a mostly post-money culture. No one seems to file taxes, have to fill out health insurance forms, or leave monetary inheritance to their next of kin.
I've never quite been sure what marriage means in the Trekverse.
I mean, most humans are secular during this time period. Furthermore, many of the legal benefits of state recognition of marriage have probably gone away - especially if we presume the Federation is a mostly post-money culture. No one seems to file taxes, have to fill out health insurance forms, or leave monetary inheritance to their next of kin.
Seems like a tradition that would continue even though the original purpose of the tradition no longer exists. Someone will say "I want to get married!" And if the partner replies with, "I no longer see the purpose", then the person who wants to get married will exclaim, "So you don't love me?!"
Something like that could actually work in the Lower Decks series they want to make.
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