TOS would have given the impression that he did not exist as well, but he did.
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And like I said, I decided to treat Discovery as a reboot or reimagination. That makes it even easier.
That's because TOS was produced prior to TFF.
And that's fine as a personal decision, but your post made it sound as if there was something inherently wrong with the writers and the producers saying things to the contrary.
Yes, but in the overall body of work of the series taken as a whole, with order of production being ignored, the idea that Spock would not mention Sybok in TOS is plausible given what we know about Spock and Sybok. And following that same line of logic, it is also plausible for Sybok to not yet (or maybe never) be mentioned in DIS.
That is to say, there is no reason to treat the non-mention of Sybok until ST:FF as a continuity problem.
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And every series and film after TFF.
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^^ I fail to see why this would constitute a problem, if it were the case...
In my opinion the creators of Star Trek: Discovery are walking a fine line, trying to satisfy different and potentially contradictory desires simultanously. On one hand they said that the series is set in the very same continuity as past Trek shows, because that's apparently an important issue for some long-time fans. On the other hand, it appears as if they decided to nonetheless disregard any prior continuity if it doesn't specifically suit their story-telling and world-building needs, and probably to much greater extent than in any previous incarnation of Star Trek. To reconcile the two it occasionally requires some mental gymnastics, as you call it. I for one just decided to go what appeared to be the easiest route and simply started to consider the show to be a reboot. Problem solved.
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IMO, it doesn't take any mental gymnastics in the slightest. It didn't for me and I've been enjoying Star Trek in all its forms for 45+ years. It does however, involve setting one's ego aside, which I am fully capable of doing when faced with new Star Trek.
Well, I guess this means that there isn't much difference between the two of us.
All I'm saying is when I watched the last couple of episodes I happened to think to myself "okay, they just seem to ignore every previous incarnation of Trek now if it doesn't suits their purposes... I suppose you can effectively consider it a reboot at this point". Then I just continued watching. As I already indicated in my original post I currently enjoy watching Star Trek: Discovery and in much a greater way than I did last season. It seems to me that this is a much bigger deal for some people around here than it is for myself.
I don't consider it a reboot or that its ignoring every previous incarnation of Trek on a whim. I feel the same way about Okuda going and give the Gorn eyelids etc.
But otherwise, no, not much of a difference in our opinions of Discovery.
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Maybe they could include something about Sybok (although I don't see this as a requirement), but I don't see the inclusion of Burnham as Spock's foster sister as ignoring anything.
I don't want DIS to live within the confines of the same background stuff we previously learned from, and rehashed from, TOS, TNG, and the like. I want DIS to give us new background information that can plausibly fit in with previously-told Trek stories and characters, and then use that new background information to tell new stories.
The spore drive, section 31, Spock's foster sister, etc. can be new background information that can lead to brand-new stories that can plausibly fit within the continuity of the existing Trek body of work.
Put it this way: The inclusion of this new background information does not automatically make this a reboot, or alternate timeline, or whatever. The producers are not pulling the wool over our eyes telling us DIS is in the "prime" TOS universe.
I think we people who became fans when only TOS existed have more experience in making things plausibly fit, because we had to do it with the TOS films and TNG fitting in with old TOS.
Granted, it was sequel information rather than prequel information, but similar tools apply to either situation.
If you can't find a Sybok in your family, chances are high, YOU are the Sybok of your familyLots of people have a family member like that.
What if someone said: "You're right I have a real pain in the ass and it's you!!"
The I'd ask "how did you know it was me?", what with the username and all.
The I'd ask "how did you know it was me?", what with the username and all.
I was speaking of Sybok. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.
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