Why did she ride that thing?
A few years ago you wouldn't have said that.
FYI: mid-to-late S6 and onwards she got back to her natural hair (unless they actually cut for her a red wig, LOL).
Gates McFadden: Ungracious?
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Why did she ride that thing?
A few years ago you wouldn't have said that.
FYI: mid-to-late S6 and onwards she got back to her natural hair (unless they actually cut for her a red wig, LOL).
met her several times. ALWAYS great with fans and funny and gracious. always a positive experience.
any of the trek actors, you can say are "ungracious" if you pick the right clips to show. not really fair for you to judge on certain clips you've seen when you've not even met her. there are other actors who've made their dislike of being associated with their character quite public and no one seems to be calling them "ungracious" or whatnot.
as for the wigs, yes she did wear wigs from the time she got back. a bit of time during the 6th season she started using her real hair, she disclosed (you can tell because it's thinner), but she went back to the wigs as it took shorter to fix and they could make it look better. the wigs were not very comfortable so she asked to use her own hair and they tried it for a while, but i guess didn't look as good as the wigs so they went back to wigs.
any of the trek actors, you can say are "ungracious" if you pick the right clips to show. not really fair for you to judge on certain clips you've seen when you've not even met her. there are other actors who've made their dislike of being associated with their character quite public and no one seems to be calling them "ungracious" or whatnot.
as for the wigs, yes she did wear wigs from the time she got back. a bit of time during the 6th season she started using her real hair, she disclosed (you can tell because it's thinner), but she went back to the wigs as it took shorter to fix and they could make it look better. the wigs were not very comfortable so she asked to use her own hair and they tried it for a while, but i guess didn't look as good as the wigs so they went back to wigs.
WillsBabe is right about the difference between what the fans see and what the folks working on a convention often do. I was a guest at a convention quite a few years ago along with a TV actor (not someone who ever had, or ever has, worked on Trek) and on stage he/she was gracious, funny, and apparently relaxed.
Hanging around with this person, however, and watching the convention folks try to schedule her/his travel, meals and so forth - well, the person was certainly pleasant but was also clearly clinically paranoid. I'm not exaggerating. The actor had diagnosed problems for which he/she was being treated (and still is, AFAIK). The illness had troubled the actor's career in the past and would continue to. It was sad, because the actor was really a nice person.
Hanging around with this person, however, and watching the convention folks try to schedule her/his travel, meals and so forth - well, the person was certainly pleasant but was also clearly clinically paranoid. I'm not exaggerating. The actor had diagnosed problems for which he/she was being treated (and still is, AFAIK). The illness had troubled the actor's career in the past and would continue to. It was sad, because the actor was really a nice person.
Because I think she had some circus skills training and it's fun to see something different from just walking out.
My guess is that almost all of the actors - like us real people - have their good days and bad days, times they're happy and gracious and times they're tired. I haven't met Gates although I saw her speak at a convention (with Sirtis) and both seemed like lovely people. I could care less about the rumors - I like the character of Dr. Crusher and I have been given no good reason not to like Gates McFadden but plenty of good reasons to like her. Nobody is ever going to be 100% open to every fan at all times, but plenty of people seem to have had nice experiences meeting her, so that's all I need to hear.
It was ironic. The point is that they are real people, e.g., 'regular foks'.
People:
First off, in the interest of full disclosure, let me say I have a bias againt both the character of Dr. Beverly Crusher and the actress who plays her, Gates McFadden.
Now, I've heard she has often been sarcastic and ungracious when meeting fans. I have not met her personally, but I did see a special where this geek interviewed her as if she were Dr. Crusher, and she seemed to take offense, whereas the other actors just played along with it.
Wanted to know if any of you here have met her and how that meeting went, good or bad. I just keep hearing how rude and obnoxious she can be to fans -- she better quit it, because it doesn't seem casting directors are knocking down her door to cast her in anything else. That is, unless you count that horrid Microsoft ad she was in awhile ago.
Discuss.
Red Ranger
she is probably just mad because she played such a boring character, the whole world saw he camel toe, and she has done nothing since then... ;-)
oh, and being remembered by one character is probably annoying and im sure some of the fans can be annoying
Gates has stated that she suffers from migraines, and my guess is that anyone who has perceived her as being remote or ungracious met her when she had a migraine headache. She obviously had a migraine at at least one con, because later she asked fans to not use flash to prevent it from happening again. This request was apparently not honored, because she has recently begun to wear dark sunglasses at cons, especially during the photo ops at the beginning of her stage sessions.
Anyone who suffers from migraines can tell you that even if you manage to get it under control with medication, ebullience is not going to be one's predominant mood. I'm sure she was doing her best to be gracious.
Anyone who suffers from migraines can tell you that even if you manage to get it under control with medication, ebullience is not going to be one's predominant mood. I'm sure she was doing her best to be gracious.
Ok, lets think from sources that are reliable...AKA not the fans.
First off, her primary love when it comes to work is not acting, it is dance choreography and dance in general. It is for dance in movies she is credited properly with her true first and last name; Cheryl McFadden.
Gates is her middle name, not her first name. She chooses to keep her acting and dance separate in crediting.
Movies she has helped choreograph are most of Jim Henson's productions, such as Labyrinth and Dark Crystal amongst others. A job i think she deserves more credit and acknowledgement for than her trek side, and from the things I've heard her say in interveiws, I think she would appreciate people giving those efforts more attention above her trek efforts.
And about being ungrateful? Think about it, acting is a job, you don't have to be grateful or gracious to fans if you don't want to. You've done your 9 to 5, then these guys seem to -DEMAND- more time from you, more often than not unpaid.
I'm not talking conventions, because in conventions, actors turn on their acting skills. Sure they may hate you, think you sad, or wouldn't wanna spend 30 seconds with you under any other circumstance, but conventions is where they have to act yet again, be nice even if they don't honestly want to be.
But in general I think she finds conventions a pleasure, its just sometimes, you get those fans that just grind you the wrong way and you just want to slap them silly....and in most cases, the fan would deserve that slapping.
She's a good hearted woman who is under acknowledged for what she loved doing most and worked hardest and longest at doing, who is acknowledged for something that's not exactly something she really put her heart fully into.
Come on, most trek fans don't even know her first name, call her "Gates." Ok, that may be a little bit her fault, keeping her different jobs apart by using her middle name for trek.
Next time anyone meets her, say "Hi Cheryl." it may make her a little more approachable when she could be a little off-standish.
First off, her primary love when it comes to work is not acting, it is dance choreography and dance in general. It is for dance in movies she is credited properly with her true first and last name; Cheryl McFadden.
Gates is her middle name, not her first name. She chooses to keep her acting and dance separate in crediting.
Movies she has helped choreograph are most of Jim Henson's productions, such as Labyrinth and Dark Crystal amongst others. A job i think she deserves more credit and acknowledgement for than her trek side, and from the things I've heard her say in interveiws, I think she would appreciate people giving those efforts more attention above her trek efforts.
And about being ungrateful? Think about it, acting is a job, you don't have to be grateful or gracious to fans if you don't want to. You've done your 9 to 5, then these guys seem to -DEMAND- more time from you, more often than not unpaid.
I'm not talking conventions, because in conventions, actors turn on their acting skills. Sure they may hate you, think you sad, or wouldn't wanna spend 30 seconds with you under any other circumstance, but conventions is where they have to act yet again, be nice even if they don't honestly want to be.
But in general I think she finds conventions a pleasure, its just sometimes, you get those fans that just grind you the wrong way and you just want to slap them silly....and in most cases, the fan would deserve that slapping.
She's a good hearted woman who is under acknowledged for what she loved doing most and worked hardest and longest at doing, who is acknowledged for something that's not exactly something she really put her heart fully into.
Come on, most trek fans don't even know her first name, call her "Gates." Ok, that may be a little bit her fault, keeping her different jobs apart by using her middle name for trek.
Next time anyone meets her, say "Hi Cheryl." it may make her a little more approachable when she could be a little off-standish.
Hell, when I bumped into Frank Miller in 2000, I thanked him for his work and told him how highly I thought of his works. Later, he chastised me for asking him some polling questions for the University of Chicago (apparently I wasn't the first he came across) and he threatened to sue the school and me for our research methods and said many an f-bomb and other expletives that will forever burn in my ear.
Still, I'll watch Sin City every chance I get. What a guy
So no, I don't hold a grudge against him and I prefer to think that he's not that big a curmudgeon.By the way, does anyone remember Gates McFadden guest-starring in an episode of Party of Five? Completely hotness.
Yeah, I've met some guys who were nice, some who weren't....
Mostly athletes. Sometimes you can tell who is being real and honest with people, other times you get the 'slick' feeling.
And currently the only two Trek autographs I have are from the two people who most people say are absolute jerks.
Shatner and Sirtis!
So, go figure.
Mostly athletes. Sometimes you can tell who is being real and honest with people, other times you get the 'slick' feeling.
And currently the only two Trek autographs I have are from the two people who most people say are absolute jerks.
Shatner and Sirtis!
So, go figure.
I see/hear that a lot with wrestlers. Often people don't take into account their schedule and time limitations when they talk to them - especially off the clock, say if they're seen at a bar or hotel.
It's hard to be 'on' all the time.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
Only the ones who dream of electric sheep. (the ones who dream of doing something to the electric sheep are the ones I'm worried about.)
That was the only PARTY OF FIVE I ever saw. Definitely hot. Wish she'd kept her season 1 hair
As one of those people, I can certainly back that up. I wonder if hers are heretitary like mine.
Me too. Her best look by far.
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