Garrett Wang

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Athena28, Aug 22, 2020.

  1. DonIago

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    Part of the difficulty I have with assessing acting, unless there's behind-the-scenes info available, is that it can be hard to tell how much of an evidently dubious acting job was due to the actor's limitations and how much of it may have been due to the actor being placed under constraints.

    I have a lot of questions about Nimoy's directing of Robin Curtis, for instance.
     
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  2. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

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    If his goal was to make her version of Saavik less interesting than watching paint dry, he succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.
     
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  3. Oddish

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    Because I am pretty much incapable of reading social nuance, I'm not much for reading acting performances anyway.
     
  4. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Commodore Commodore

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    Beltran was very vocal on his views of the scripts and how the VOY writers treated his character. Kes should've stayed and Chakotay leave; for Beltran he could've done other things than spending the remaining seasons being G.O.A.T. Janeway's punchy.
     
  5. Oddish

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    Here's a thought... Kes leaves in S3. Harry gets sucked out the airlock in Deadlock... and not replaced. Chakotay gets snuffed in S4 or 5.
    1. The characters who weren't used are out of the way.
    2. It gives the journey some real teeth: no one is safe. Anyone could die.
    3. TOS, TNG, and ENT did just fine with seven main characters.
    4. No 7/C ship. Nuff said.
     
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  6. Laughing Dragon

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    I appreciate him bringing his own politics to Emanations.
     
  7. Captain_Nick

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    Thank god someone else gets these creepy vibes

    Early Voyager is almost unwatchable. I keep wanting to break out the Chris Hansen memes
     
  8. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    Sounds like a euphemism or do I mean a euphonium? Either way, it might have made him more interesting.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    You mean when he clearly broke the Prime Directive?
     
  10. Ar-Pharazon

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    Oh yeah, writing and directing are definitely factors in addition to "acting ability". Some directors, I'm thinking Frakes, seem to get better performances out of a cast than others.
     
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  11. Oddish

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    If the only way to make a character more interesting is to assign him a different woodwind over a 7-year show, maybe the character is expendable.
     
  12. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, pretty much completely redundant.
     
  13. WarpTenLizard

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    I'm not sure if I replied to this yet, so apologize if this is a repetitive post.

    I think for the most part, they were going to fire Jennifer Lien either way, due to her mental/drug problems that only recently came to light. They may have played up the magazine thing to distract from the truth, and protect Lien's privacy.

    That said, the magazine could surely have been a factor, simply because it drew attention to "Voyager's" only Asian major character. In the 1990s, and on "Star Trek" no less, killing off their token Asian character would surely have been a risky move. So if they had originally planned to off Kim, they no doubt wanted to do it quietly, without too much media fanfare. But then this damn magazine brings him up, and now millions of non-"Voyager" fans have just learned that "Voyager" has a major Asian character named Harry Kim, in a time period when Asians were probably still underrepresented on American TV. So there was no way they could kill him off now.

    I don't know any of this for a fact, this is just my personal hypothesis.
     
  14. Athena28

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    They spoke about Lien’s
    issues on the podcast. But felt she could’ve been brought back for other episodes
     
  15. Oddish

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    Given her issues, the decision to throw Kes off the bus makes sense. But that doesn't justify throwing Harry under it.