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Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season

When she took off I thought she was going straight for the Red Keep. I had to pick my jaw up off of the ground when I saw she was taking out civilians.
I had a similar reaction to deliberately taking out the people of the city. Up until that point, I thought the concern for the civilian population had been as collateral damage. I expected her to go straight for the Keep and have a showdown with Cersei. The show completely undercut my expectations there.

As others have said, she is sending a clear message to the rest of Westeros that there are no weapons or castles that can stop her. People have obviously forgotten about Harrenhal. Now, she probably expects the rest of the continent to bend the knee.

Her actions were beyond what most supervillains in the comics would do. It would be like Doctor Doom wiping New York off the map.
 
Just when I thought this series couldn't get any worse. Hopefully Dany gets put to the sword next week and Drogon gets a scorpion arrow to the face.
 
I rewatched the episode. Liked it a lot more this time, especially having a different perspective with regard to Arya.

Director Miguel Spochnik (who previously did "Hardhome", "Battle of the Bastards" and "The Long Night") delivered another spectacular action packed episode. especially impressive was the fight between the hound and the mountain on the steps of a crumbling building with a fiery dragon flying by in the background.

Dany was stupid. For her revenge all she had to do was the burn the red keep.

If the events were not foreshadowed enough already they were pretty much telegraphed by the words that were included at the end of the "Perviously on GoT" segment:
Cersei: Every time a Targareyn is born the gods flip a coin
Barristan: The mad king gave his enemies the justice he thought they deserved
Tyrion: Children are not their fathers
Olenna: Be a dragon
Aemon: A Targareyn alone in the world is a terrible thing
Viserys: You don’t want to wake the dragon, do you?
 
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Sansa will put on a pious face, but no more King’s Landing lording it over the North is her happy ending.

Didn’t believe Arya is converted to kindness and sensitivity at the last second, by the Hound of all people.

Didn’t believe Sandor lasts that long and don’t believe he can shove the Mountain through a wall.

Daenerys didn’t even fire Tyrion much less kill him, didn’t confine Jon to quarters, didn’t demand Sansa be arrested, even went so far as to try to make a new beginning with Jon. If Paris is worth a Mass, making love to the woman you love should be easy. If they wanted to have Jon have religious scruples they should have written the man as religious. He’s not. He’d rather send her into battle as a woman scorned for no reason at all. It’s almost as if he’s thinking he doesn’t want to accept a role as consort lest it interfere with his later claim. Sansa is pretty good.

In short, war is hell, and the true villains are the ones who start them. Glad to see Varys co-architect of years of war with Olenna and Littlefinger go. But before I went I remembered the movie he came from, The Caine Mutiny. He was the Fred MacMurray character undermining Captain Queeg (Bogart) to the Van Johnson character. But too late for a Jose Ferrer character to point out that you should try to help people struggling instead of backstabbing them.

In long, re war is hell: The news tells us that a built up city is where inferior forces have a tactical edge enabling them to hold out for extremely long period, and the only real way to beat them without tremendous casualties is heavy bombardment. Leningrad, Stalingrad taught this to very good German armies. Recent examples include Falluja and Raqqa. Surrendering in the middle of a battle is always fraught with difficulties, which is why it’s so important for the commanders to give surrender orders, instead of going the Tarly route and trying to urge vain sacrifices. The number of dead is probably some times larger than the number of poor, sick, elderly and young who would have died in the prolonged siege Tyrion wanted. I think pretending this is just personal madness instead of standard operating procedure is kind of sleazy.

None of this supports the mad queen scenario. Daenerys refusing to return the Dothraki to the Great Grass Sea or refusing to pay off and retire the Unsullied would be. But that wouldn’t be very believable either.

A believable ending would be Daenerys taking them back east, leaving Jon to be ignominiously slaughtered in a vain effort to keep peace in Westeros. Sansa doing him in personally would be a bit of a stretch. But her invasion to seize Tully lands would be very plausible, and very apt to kill him off. Then Westeros could be free to have constant wars among the kingdoms. Happy endings for all!

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I am just curious, have you ever come to a correct conclusion about anything in your entire life?
 
After having had some time to process...

I think they've gone too far with Dany. I just don't buy that she would go bat-shit crazy like that and murder so many innocent people.
Think of it this way. She went bat shit crazy for like 15 minutes in the middle of a battle with no one around to calm her down. And, she was riding a WMD at the time. Bad stuff is going to happen. And, seeing the destruction probably pumped her up even more.

It wasn't premeditated. And, when most people freak out for a bit, they don't have a WMD with them! Plus, she was in a bad state of mind and with those family tendencies. It really all fits together.

Is it really any different than those who do school shootings? Not really. She just had a bigger weapon and was out of range of others to retaliate.
 
Think of it this way. She went bat shit crazy for like 15 minutes in the middle of a battle with no one around to calm her down. And, she was riding a WMD at the time. Bad stuff is going to happen. And, seeing the destruction probably pumped her up even more.

It wasn't premeditated. And, when most people freak out for a bit, they don't have a WMD with them! Plus, she was in a bad state of mind and with those family tendencies. It really all fits together.

Is it really any different than those who do school shootings? Not really. She just had a bigger weapon and was out of range of others to retaliate.
It was premeditated. She said so to Jon, he just didn't get it.
 
People ignored the copious amount of in-series evidence that Jaime was never going to leave Cersei behind permanently because they saw what they wanted to see in his 'redemption' even though he made it clear throughout the series that he wasn't the 'white knight'.

You have some nerve coming in here pontificating after the shit that has recently transpired here. Most people would stay away in shame.
 
Think of it this way. She went bat shit crazy for like 15 minutes in the middle of a battle with no one around to calm her down. And, she was riding a WMD at the time. Bad stuff is going to happen. And, seeing the destruction probably pumped her up even more.

It wasn't premeditated. And, when most people freak out for a bit, they don't have a WMD with them! Plus, she was in a bad state of mind and with those family tendencies. It really all fits together.

Is it really any different than those who do school shootings? Not really. She just had a bigger weapon and was out of range of others to retaliate.

I get what you're saying. However, I still believe it would have remained in character for her to "snap" and take out The Red Keep only (which would have still incurred collateral damage). It's the fact she intentionally targeted civilians in what amounts to a terror attack and murdered thousands in cold blood. She wanted fear, and by god she'll have all of Westeros terrified now.

I guess it works if we are accepting the logic that she really has gone "mad". Has the unhinged Dany always been on the verge of breaking out? And with no one to reign her in or keep her within the boundaries of sanity, she lets loose. The question is, does this logic work within the context of the series?
 
I get what they are doing and it has been coming for years.........the thing is with only 6 episodes in this season it happened too quickly. I do not know why they decided to go with 6 instead of 8 or even 10 with the amount of things they had to cover, but that's what happened. AND when they decided to finally make her break, they had to make it irredeemable so that when someone kills her crazy ass next week, it seems just and righteous. I still enjoy the show, but after episode 3 there was just too much stuff to wrap up in 3 episodes.........and way too quick to turn everyone's darling into the Mad Queen burning children in the streets. Should have sewn a few more Evil Dany breadcrumbs last season.......IMHO.

Edit to add: I also thought it wasn't a good use of Jon just having him run around looking confused like he was just thinking "HOLY SHIT".......I was hoping he'd at least take out Greyworm for disobeying his commands and to try to restore HIS authority. I did really enjoy the Arya/Hound moment.....best part of this week for me.
 
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I wonder if there is any chance that Bronn will kill Daenerys with his crossbow? Or maybe kill Grey Worm allowing either Arya or Jon to kill Daenerys? I guess whoever it is they will also have to get past the Unsullied and the Dothraki as well.

I think Daenerys will probably try to get loyalty from Edmure Tully and Robin Arryn and I guess both of them might bend the knee very quickly. Not sure if we will see the Prince of Dorne, or if we will see Yara Greyjoy again.
 
The lords of the regions of the Seven Kingdoms

The Riverlands : Edmure Tully

Dorne : some prince, maybe Darkstar from the books ?

The Iron Islands : Yara Greyjoy

The Westerlands : Tyrion Lannister

The Reach : Bronn ? Or perhaps maybe Samwell

The Vale : Robin Arynn

The Stormlands : Gendry Baratheon

The North : Sansa Stark
 
It is probably a good thing that Winterfell has CCTV coverage via Bran. At least they will have a bit of warning that Daenerys is on her way.
 
This episode was kind of a better version of Anakin turning to the Dark Side. Here is someone that we the audience grew to like, but when you think about it, everything she did was in place, from even her reaction to her brother being killed in front of her. When Dany views you as an enemy, she is like a Cobra Kai--and shows no mercy.

I didn't expect Cersei to die in this episode, but it was clear that during the episode, it was going to happen, and once I saw it coming, it also made sense.

No one expected Cersei to survive the series, the show tends to have some major deaths in the second to last episode of every season, and this all but assures they don't pull a Smallville and we get to see some aftermath.

Dany has proven herself to be no better than Cersei. She just had a better weapon.

The question now becomes--will Jon press his claim to the throne? Or will someone else take over?

I hope Sansa doesn't end up on the Iron Throne. I don't feel like she inspires the way Jon does. That said, she does have wisdom enough to counsel Jon.

Jon has the heart to rule, but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But maybe Jon, with Tyrion and Sansa at his side, would make a good king.
 
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