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Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season

I think that was fans assuming Sansa thinks her rape at Ramsay's hands is the defining event of her life when it's not even in Sansa's top thirteen. As bad as that was, she hated the Boltons much more for killing her brother and mother.

Which shows the rape thing left a much bigger impression than in the showrunner's minds--because it was just a thing they threw in to give Sophie Turner something to do.

People are angered by what Sansa's words imply because said words are being seen as yet another example of the series trivializing the subject of rape.
 
Jaime/Brienne supporters are pissed off that he slept with her and then turned around and went back to Cersei.
There are interviewers saying that this is awkward, but it was forced by the shortened season (which you claim was always planned)

Jon and Dany supporters are pissed off that the characters have been turned against one another and that Dany is being written to be heading towards insanity.
That was almost inevitable. What kinds of clowns are mad about this?


Fans of the show's female characters in general are once again lobbing accusations of misogyny and racism against David and Dan for their treatment of Missandei and for Sansa telling The Hound that she wouldn't have been made strong if she'd gone with him (intimating that suffering rape and torture at the hands of Ramsay made her strong).
Missandrei was murdered by the bad guys. That's what bad guys do - kill people that will evoke a reaction. You are reacting and so it worked.

Sansa's situation is terrible, but in the world they live in, she is right. The terrible things that happened to her took her to the place she is now. It's a misogynistic concept, but not too different from Bran saying having his legs broken allowed him to become the crow. Anyway, I will agree that her line wasn't the show's greatest moment. I do find it funny that MRAs and feminists are both mad at the show for opposite reasons.

These aren't cases of people "not paying attention"; they're cases of people expressing genuine dissatisfaction with and anger - exacerbated and fueled by spoilers that have leaked online in some places - over writing decisions that have been made.
Not their story. Don't give a shit. If I got the exact story I had in my head I'd be pissed off. If they make me feel something, even if that's anger, this will continue to be one of the best shows of all time for me.
 
People are angered by what Sansa's words imply because said words are being seen as yet another example of the series trivializing the subject of rape.
In a world where the "good" guys/girl burn people alive, a lot of things are trivialized. It's not our world.
 
And BTW complain to GRR Martin about the misogyny. I don't think this is supposed to be a story you take as an allegory to our current condition. It's more of a commentary on war, and the ability of power to corrupt.

EDIT: Or maybe he is just a gross old man who wrote a disgusting story and we all fell for it!
 
People are angered by what Sansa's words imply because said words are being seen as yet another example of the series trivializing the subject of rape.

I should note that the source of the fact Sansa doesn't define herself by her rape comes from a female relative.

Who is a survivor of it.

But in this case, literally, Sansa isn't talking about rape.
 
Awww crap. I was thinking the same thing, but now that you've said this, we know we'll see the Walkers again in the finale. Why'd you have to go and do that?

Yeah, he totally jinxed it. I don't think they will resurrect the whitewalker story line but I won't be surprised if the last episode shows a new Night King being created, and maybe the wall getting repaired. The whitewalker attacks are supposed to happen every 1000 years, so I doubt Arya killing the NK ended it for good.
 
I have absolutely no idea why some people would be fine with David and Dan throwing out 7+ seasons' worth of character development and narrative, absolutely shafting certain fan favorite characters, and pissing off a lot of people, but I'm not going to try.

You were fine with this last week.
 
I get the impression the Whitewalkers never broke the Wall before so they attack the Wall, raise some hell, and then just go back home.
 
And BTW complain to GRR Martin about the misogyny. I don't think this is supposed to be a story you take as an allegory to our current condition. It's more of a commentary on war, and the ability of power to corrupt.

EDIT: Or maybe he is just a gross old man who wrote a disgusting story and we all fell for it!

Trying not to come across wrong here, as I think this is one of the problematic sticking points of the show--but truth is that such treatment is a daily fact of life for women many countries. Just Google rape as a weapon of war, or systemic sexual violence and check out the results.
 
Trying not to come across wrong here, as I think this is one of the problematic sticking points of the show--but truth is that such treatment is a daily fact of life for women many countries. Just Google rape as a weapon of war, or systemic sexual violence and check out the results.
Yup. We sit on our high horses and pontificate what can and can't be shown on TV (portrayed as absolutely villainous acts, btw) while such things happen around the world. We think it's best not to know I guess. Sad.
 
New contender for the character who wants badly to kill Cersei: greyworm

But money is still on Arya.
 
Danerys and Cersei will have a dynasty style catfight instigated by Cersei throwing wine in daenarys face. Cersei will throw wine instead of drinking it to subvert audience expectations.
 
New contender for the character who wants badly to kill Cersei: greyworm
But money is still on Arya.
No, I think, at least in this point (other than Azor Ahai) they stay with the prophecy from the books:
Cersei will be killed by her younger brother, and that will be Jaime.
 
David and Dan know people are going to be pissed off by the series' ending, which is why they said on Jimmy Kimmel that they're going to be on vacation with their wives when the finale airs.

The outrage is real and it's only going to intensify.

GRRM himself left the country when 1x09 (the execution of Ned Stark) aired, so as to avoid the potential outcry. People being upset by a storyline doesn't automatically make it bad. Indeed, many people were furious and upset by Ned's death and swore they wouldn't watch anymore (something that seems quite laughable now, given the cultural behemoth the show became).
 
No, I think, at least in this point (other than Azor Ahai) they stay with the prophecy from the books:
Cersei will be killed by her younger brother, and that will be Jaime.

In the books the prophecy says

“When your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."

However in High Valyrian, the valonqar can be either male or female so it means younger sibling. Also it say ‘the valonqar’ not ‘your valonqar’ so it could mean someone besides a sibling of Cersei. Some people believe ‘the Valonqar’ is Arya because she is a younger sibling.

Personally I think it is Jaime.
 
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