Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season

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  1. theenglish

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    I know what you are saying, but I think that it is because she is surrounded by such a remarkable cast of actors. She is a fantastic actor, but now that she is surrounded by the rest of the cast, her relative weaknesses seem more apparent. That said, I thoroughly enjoy her in the role and she does bring a lot of strength to it.

    Oddly enough, Sophie Turner whom I always felt was the weak link has really stepped up these last couple of seasons and is doing a remarkable job.
     
  2. Cyrus

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    I tried imagining swapping Cersei and Dany actresses. Didn't work, I am just too used to these characters as they are.
     
  3. Sci

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    I don't know what to tell you -- I saw all that in her performance.

    I do think that her performances have become more nuanced in Seasons Seven and Eight. This is partly a function of how the narrative was set up for Dany in Seasons Two through Six. To wit, her story was: "Dany shows up at a city. The city is run by assholes who clearly shouldn't be running a 7-Eleven, let alone an entire civilization. Dany is awesome, and Dany takes over. Dany is right to take over because she is Good and they were Bad. Repeat."

    Whereas starting in Season Seven, Dany gets to be a more three-dimensional character, because suddenly the narrative isn't rigged to make her always right. Sure, she's fine with helping Jon defeat the Night King... if he bends the knee first. She's fine going North to fight for all of humanity -- but goddamnit, these fucking Northmen damn well better call her "Your Grace" while they're all fighting to save humanity.

    Because suddenly Dany is being allowed to be selfish and sort-sighted instead of always being Right and her enemies always being Bad People, I think Clarke has been able to breathe greater depth into the character.

    I mean, Turner was literally 14 when they started. Yeah, she was no Millie Bobby Brown, but I think it's pretty clear she's grown as an actor in the years since Season One. And certainly it helps that Sansa is now being written as someone with agency rather than as someone being passed around as a hostage-bride from the Lannisters to the Arryns to the Boltons.
     
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  4. imdbrefugee

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    I didn't say Lena Headey. I said an actress of comparable acting talent.
     
  5. Miss Chicken

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    Maisie has said it best

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  7. FPAlpha

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    Also she wasn't even naked as opposed to Emilia Clarke and others, it was a body double.

    I don't get the whole puritan outcry.. yes, she was a kid when the show started, but she's a young woman now and in-GoT (or medieval times in general) by the time a woman is about 18-20 she often enough was already married and had children.

    I didn't have a problem with it at all and it worked well within the character and show so everybody chill out :)
     
  8. Miss Chicken

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    Maisie has said she did not use a double. She said the producers let her choose the level of nudity she was comfortable with.
     
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  9. The Nth Doctor

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    Beat me to it. She said so in this interview.
     
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  10. Miss Chicken

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  11. Locutus of Bored

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    Yeah, I was wondering if that was a possibility due to BenJen being undead but still in control of his own actions.
     
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    Ooooh that'd be an awesome subversion of the grim n' gritty expectation.
     
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  14. The Nth Doctor

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    Ooo...that's an interesting idea. However, I'm not sure if that's been adequately set up in the series (certainly in the books though). How much has Brandon the Builder been discussed on the show? Certainly not recently, which makes me think it's unlikely considering they often seed hints in episodes to help refresh viewers' minds.
     
  15. DigificWriter

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    Given the fact that Emilia Clarke has survived two brain aneurysms, I think a little leeway needs to be given to her in terms of her strength as an actor, not just in Game of Thrones, but in everything that she's ever done in her career thus far and everything else that she might yet do.
     
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  16. Lokiberry

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    I didin't know that about Emilia. That's amazing.
     
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    I think that Bran the Builder has been mentioned three times on the show.

    First time



    Osha mentioned him once, as does Shireen. I will look for those clips later.
     
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    The eagerness to murder Daenerys is matched only by the forgetfulness of the question: What happens to the Unsullied and the Dothraki? They will of course be massacred, as will everyone else of her people except Tyrion and Varys, men villainous enough to be fan favorites. It's like after the loot train battle. If you have all these people who can't lock up, you have to have them surrender, i.e., bend the knee. Showing the Northerners massacre all those off-white Unsullied and Dothraki might be deemed too obvious (though the rich people are very Trumpian these days, so maybe not.) This show is getting incredibly crude about such things. They may just write in the Night King conveniently massacring them first.
     
  20. DigificWriter

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    ^ Varys has to die at some point because of what Melisandre told him before she left Westeros, regardless of what does or doesn't happen to Dany and her claim to the Iron Throne.