Bran has to have some idea where and were to look. He can’t see everything at once. That is why he needs a Master of Whisperers.
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A disagreement I am having on Facebook. One person is saying that the Dothraki would avenge Daenerys’s death whereas I am of the opinion that they would not have allegiance to someone who had died. They would pick someone new to follow.
The Unsullied is a different matter.
The Unsullied is a different matter.
HBO wanted 10 seasons of Game of Thrones. It was D&D who forced the show to end early.
I'm with you on the Dothraki. They abandoned Drogo as soon as he was dead. If Dany still had any specific Bloodriders left maybe they would be inclined to vengeance, but everything we've seen of the Dothraki suggests they move on after death. They follow winners. Losers, which the dead are by default, aren't worthy of respect.
That's not how greenseeing has been shown to work.
Bran is neither omniscient nor omnipresent.
And it showed in the ending -- this entire season, really. If not for the fact that Peter Dinklage is an actor that can make even poor writing seem fantastic the finale would've been borderline unwatchable. His acting sold what would've been unsalable in less capable hands. Despite all the death, the writers rushed every aspect of this and gave us the GoT equivalent of "And they all lived happily ever after." That's just not GoT, imo.
No, but he can be anywhere, anywhen. "Gee, I wonder what Bronn of the Blackwater is up to? Let me just take a quick peek at last Tuesday and find out..."
It's true, he wouldn't necessarily know exactly where or when to look. But, those who serve him also can't know when or if he'll see any given action or statement. He's not omniscient, but nothing can be kept secret from him if he goes looking. Imagine your boss being able see literally any moment of your workday on demand. Would you straighten up and fly right, or start plotting around the edges?
Okay, I'm going to throw this out there:
It seems to me that by looking at the ending from a different angle, Bran played the Game of Thrones very well. People are saying he didn't want to be king, but what if he did? What if he determined long ago that it was the best way forward (assuming he didn't just want the power)? The way it played out with Jon killing Dany prevents Jon from having a realistic chance at the throne--and Bran's line that he came to King's Landing to be king is perhaps more than just his precognition.
At first I thought his comment about finding Drogon meant he was going to look with the Ravens. But isn't it also a possibility that he has been warging into Drogon? I thought it was weird that Drogon would just choose to burn down the throne. What if the reason he spared Jon was not because he can't kill a Targaryan but it was a more conscious decision by Bran?
As for Jon's end, I didn't see this as a punishment, and I didn't think we were meant to. Jon's heart is in the North with the Wildlings.
As for the rest of the ending, I am glad that we had a full ending for all the surviving characters and everyone seemed to get the best closure possible after everything else that has happened. I was also impressed by the similarities between the Season 2 vision and the final throne room scene--it really shows the pay off in a story that had been planned from early on.
It seems to me that by looking at the ending from a different angle, Bran played the Game of Thrones very well. People are saying he didn't want to be king, but what if he did? What if he determined long ago that it was the best way forward (assuming he didn't just want the power)? The way it played out with Jon killing Dany prevents Jon from having a realistic chance at the throne--and Bran's line that he came to King's Landing to be king is perhaps more than just his precognition.
At first I thought his comment about finding Drogon meant he was going to look with the Ravens. But isn't it also a possibility that he has been warging into Drogon? I thought it was weird that Drogon would just choose to burn down the throne. What if the reason he spared Jon was not because he can't kill a Targaryan but it was a more conscious decision by Bran?
As for Jon's end, I didn't see this as a punishment, and I didn't think we were meant to. Jon's heart is in the North with the Wildlings.
As for the rest of the ending, I am glad that we had a full ending for all the surviving characters and everyone seemed to get the best closure possible after everything else that has happened. I was also impressed by the similarities between the Season 2 vision and the final throne room scene--it really shows the pay off in a story that had been planned from early on.
Honestly, though, that's the kind of power that protects you when you're the court wizard/advisor but gets you killed quickly if you're a ruler. No one in Westeros is going to want their King to have that kind of ability. The paranoia that would eventually build-up in the nobles regarding that would be enough to make both Cersei and Dany blush, and he can't keep up with them all.
No, he can't. As I said, that isn't how greenseeing has been shown to work.
Yes, as you said. Sadly, you're not the show or what's onscreen.
Evidence? The few times we've been privy to the power's use, the Three Eyed Raven has been able to see specific incidents at specific times. His predecessor took Bran to specific points, at will, in order to inform Bran's choices moving forward and to show him critical pieces of information. Bran was able, in apparently moments and at will, to locate the wedding of Rhaegar and Lyanna and mentally attend.
You want to make a claim, back it up.
But he did not know to look for the wedding until Sam mentioned it. He is like a computer - he has to have some idea what to put into the search engine otherwise he is just web surfing.
And I agree, to a point. As noted, Bran has to actively go looking. He doesn't just know stuff. But everything we've seen suggests that when he goes looking, he has access to pretty much all of history, everywhere in Westeros at least. There's nothing stopping him from playing a little Three Eyed Raven Wikipedia Roulette(TM) whenever he gets the urge.
In your specific example, Bran already knew who Jon's parents were. It just never occurred to him to explore the story any further. He thought he had the answer, he never realized he was actually looking at the question. I've seen no evidence in the show to suggest that he couldn't actively go looking for more depth if he had thought to do so.
Everyone pretty much rode off into the sunset. Sansa is Queen. Arya is off adventuring. Grey Worm is vacationing. Tyrion is Hand. Bran is King. Bronn owns everything even though House Stark shouldn't be paying off a Lannister debt. Jon's back where he started. Sam and Davos are on the council. Brienne is finally both a Knight and head of the Kings Guard. Podrick's finally a knight. The Mad Queen is dead.
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Every time it faded to black, I was convinced we were getting a massive time jump.Did anyone else expect a sudden card saying "TEN...YEARS...LATER," or was it just me?
They actually foreshadowed this in Season 6, when she's being chased by the Waif. She asks Lady Crane "What is west of Westeros?"
I think he saw that he needed to be where he needed to be!
Well, fiddlesticks. I can't explain that. I guess they had reasons, but it didn't help the show.
Some cool and favorite scenes:
First time we see Dany, Drogon spreads its wings behind her, it looks as if Dany has wings.
Jon is passing a pile of snow and gets startled when it moves, and turns out to be Drogon under the snow.
Members of small council each saying individually "Long may he reign" instead of saying it together
Tyrion: "That will improve"
Bran: "I am sure it will"
First time we see Dany, Drogon spreads its wings behind her, it looks as if Dany has wings.
Jon is passing a pile of snow and gets startled when it moves, and turns out to be Drogon under the snow.
Members of small council each saying individually "Long may he reign" instead of saying it together
Tyrion: "That will improve"
Bran: "I am sure it will"
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