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Game of Thrones 4.10 - "The Children" - Rate and discuss

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If they've been doing 1.5 seasons per book, why would they cover two massive books in a single season now? Is the general consensus that these two books are no good?
 
If they've been doing 1.5 seasons per book, why would they cover two massive books in a single season now? Is the general consensus that these two books are no good?
They certainly have their defenders, but the general consensus is that books four and five (which take place concurrently) aren't as good as the first three and that they have a lot of material that can be cut down and streamlined. Some of the characters are already well into their plots from books four and five. Others are are only at their book three endpoint. There'll be quite a bit of reworking of the material next season, more so than in past seasons. If they're still aiming at a seven-season show, or at least leaving that open as a possibility, then they really need to be done with books four and five by the end of season five.
 
For crying out loud, guys, pay attention to what thread you're in!

I apologize to anyone trying to remain spoiler-free who read my post above. Really thought I was in the other thread. Couldn't quickly remember how to put it in spoiler tags, so I just deleted it (though it's quoted too, so not a complete deletion). :alienblush:
 
For crying out loud, guys, pay attention to what thread you're in!

I apologize to anyone trying to remain spoiler-free who read my post above. Really thought I was in the other thread. Couldn't quickly remember how to put it in spoiler tags, so I just deleted it (though it's quoted too, so not a complete deletion). :alienblush:

It's been really hard to escape this spoiler. Apparently my wife heard it before the season even started, and I told her I didn't want to know. But so many people on the internet have blurted it out and I've been tainted. It's been a while since I've seen a spoiler talked about on this scale (for any production) for a while.

Who knows, maybe it won't happen? That might piss some book readers off though.
 
Here's where things get tricky. They've lost some of their best characters and the source material gets a lot weaker, but I think they're going to be pretty ruthless in cutting things down and reworking the material for the fifth season. Hopefully they get it right.

I must admit that while each season has been amazing so far, I do worry how they are going to make S5 any good without heading completely away from the books since, as many have pointed out, not much happens in books 4-5. I'm sure they'll cover all the major beats from 4-5, but yes they are going to have to start outpacing the books (which we knew was going to happen anyway- and in some ways already has begun) in either S5 or, at a stretch, S6. Which is fine, but... yes, I hope the show doesn't start sucking is what I am saying.

They'll probably be done with books four and five by the end of the fifth season.

Since books 4-5 cover the same period of time... yes, I think you might be right.
 
If they've been doing 1.5 seasons per book, why would they cover two massive books in a single season now? Is the general consensus that these two books are no good?

They've already covered a fair bit of content from books 4 and 5 in the previous two seasons, so it's more like 1.5 massive books in a single season. Massive books in page count, but light on events. It'll be fine compressed into a single season.
 
Well hopefully JJRM will release books 6 and 7 soon enough. I happen to think by this show even existing it has significantly slowed his writing down, because he is now involved with the show, writing episodes, interview appearances, etc... When does he have time to finish these books? hmmm
 
Well hopefully JJRM will release books 6 and 7 soon enough.

Ha ha! Look, we'll be very, very lucky to get book 6 out before the show finishes S6. But there is no way, I repeat, NO WAY, that book 7 will come out before S7 airs. The show will outpace the novels, as surely as the Titanic was going to sink after it hit the iceberg. There's no way around that fact.
 
I wonder if he would let the show writers help him write the novel? He has the outline for it since he apparently gave that to the show writers.
 
Ha ha! Look, we'll be very, very lucky to get book 6 out before the show finishes S6. But there is no way, I repeat, NO WAY, that book 7 will come out before S7 airs. The show will outpace the novels, as surely as the Titanic was going to sink after it hit the iceberg. There's no way around that fact.
Yeah, I agree.

I wonder if he would let the show writers help him write the novel? He has the outline for it since he apparently gave that to the show writers.
They wouldn't have time. They've spoken of how draining it is making the show. They work all year round with almost no time off to get each season made and they can't manage more than 10 episodes per season. That's how complicated and onerous the production is.
 
I wonder if he would let the show writers help him write the novel? He has the outline for it since he apparently gave that to the show writers.

Help him write the book? He has gone so far as to say if the he dies he doesn't want anyone else to finish it. It's his baby.
 
<<They wouldn't have time. They've spoken of how draining it is making the show. They work all year round with almost no time off to get each season made and they can't manage more than 10 episodes per season. That's how complicated and onerous the production is. >>

They only make ten episodes a year. :wtf:

And they're only adapting pre-existing stories quite literally. :wtf:

Normal shows make 22 episodes a year and they actually have to invent the material :wtf:
 
Normally shows don't have 50 characters, intricate interweaving plot lines, and have to fit into the straight jacket of another's creation. They have their hands full.
 
I guess I'm just gonna have to stop participating in any GoT threads. I want to talk about the show, but I'm sick of seeing spoilers from the goddam books.
 
They only make ten episodes a year. :wtf:

And they're only adapting pre-existing stories quite literally. :wtf:

Normal shows make 22 episodes a year and they actually have to invent the material :wtf:
The complexity of the adaptation is more difficult than inventing new material, but the main reason they can only make 10 episodes a year is the complexity and scale of the production itself.
 
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