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Game of Thrones 4.10 - "The Children" - Rate and discuss

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Yeah as fine as I am with all the other fantasy elements on this show, the skeletons and fireball throwing did seem like a bit too excessively magical for this show somehow.

But it wasn't a major issue, and the sequence was still pretty damn fun to watch.
 
Pretty great episode, really great music, mostly nice balance of changes from the books, but I am pissed off at the lack of Lady Stoneheart, which would have made a great mindfuck of a cliffhanger.

The Keeper of Traken under the tree is familar- Struan Rodger? I noticed his name in the credits (the Face of Boe from Dr Who)
 
davejames said:
Frankly I think that motivation would have probably required too much explanation and felt too abstract to non-book readers like myself, since that incident was only mentioned once or twice a while ago and didn't feel nearly as immediate as the more recent slights against Tyrion.

For me, the series had already established quite well just how badly Tyrion's father had wronged him over the years, and him sleeping with Shae was only icing on the cake. Not to mention the fact he was being sentenced to death by his own father, even though (as Tyrion pointed out) he clearly must have realized he was not Joffrey's killer.

With all that, it certainly felt like there was enough motivation to me.
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None of that strikes nearly as deep a chord. All it would have taken is replacing the nonsense "KUNK" scene between them a couple episodes ago with a more relevant conversation about their childhood to remind everyone that Tyrion has formed an unhealthy relationship with whores because of that foundational experience. A traumatic and abhorrent experience that was based on a lie and destroyed the life of an innocent girl that he was in love with and perhaps the only girl who ever loved him back.
 
Turtletrekker said:
The director of the episode explains why the character from the books that people expected to show up didn't...
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I can see how it would have been a cool surprise for people reading the book, but I have to agree that it would have felt out of place on the TV series. After the great performance and depth that was brought to the character before, bringing them back later just to be some... vengeful horror movie villain would have felt beyond tacky and cheap (even if it did happen to make for a really cool visual).
 
The farther you get from "civilization," the more fantastical stuff you find. There's not a whole lot of magic going on south of the Wall, but the farther north you go, the more weird stuff pops up. Makes sense enough to me. Bran and friends have probably ventured farther north than any other humans had in a long time.
 
StarMan said:
Candlelight said:
That does it. I'm reading the books.
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Ditto.
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I just took the lazy option, and looked up a few characters on the Song of Fire & Ice wiki to see what happens to them next :)




And reading about "the-character-people-thought-might-appear-in-the-finale"
yeah I agree with that article it'd be too much. And if it does happen it'd be better next season say as a cliffhanger ending to say episode 1 or 2. It'd make a great "OMG" start to the season to get everyone talking about the show. Kinda like how the Joffrey thing was a big start to Season 4
 
Mister Fandango said:
What the hell was with the halfling druids anyway? Talk about random.
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The Children have only been mentioned on the series once before. But they talk about them on the DVD histories (on youtube also) and in the books.

They are the people who lived in Westeros before the first men came over from Essos. They carved the faces in the trees and taught men to be Wargs and greenseers
 
The skeletons were decent, the children + fireballs were pretty lame. I doubt there was a good way to do it though, they were always going to come off as corny in such a super serious and gritty show.
 
A lot of what I enjoyed has already been stated. It was a great episode and IMO, the best season finale yet.

It's a shame the Hound died, he started to grow on me. Arya surprised me leaving him to die like that. He did protect her a few times.

With Tywin gone, I have a feeling Kings Landing is going to shit. Cersei will probably have a hand in it. I was put off on Shea's death. Why didn't she flip over and roll off the bed?

Anyway, the adventures of Tyrion and Faris sounds interesting.
 
Is the Hound dead though? We just saw him in a really pitiful condition, but he's hardly dead. He's also clearly not the type to rely on suicide, at least not from what I've seen of his personality.
 
Turtletrekker said:
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I am super glad it didn't happen.

Yes could be used as a great shock to tv viewers in the future but if it never happens, meh.

One thing I loved was the way Varis begins to walk down the dock, hears the bells and realizes what it means, turns around and sits down next to the Tyrion crate :lol:

All unspoken, his whole life turned upside down in a moment.
 
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